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: [45] NSS u/f+3 1+4 f,n,d,D/F+2 S! f+3+4~FLE.2
: [45] NSS u/f+3 1+4 f,n,d,D/F+2 S! f+3+4~FLE.2
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== Wall ==
{{Wall}}
{{Combolist|
; Regular splat<ref group="w">Common after ws2,3 or f+1+2 or d+2 W! in a juggle</ref>
: [23]<ref group="w">Does more damage than d/f+1 with less scaling</ref> b+2,f~n f+4,3 d+3
: [23] d/f+1 f+4,3 d+3
: [20] 4,3<4
; Low splat<ref group="w">Common after f+2,1 W! in a juggle</ref>
: [19] d+4,4,3,3
: [18] d+4,4,u+3<ref group="w">Recovers faster, so better oki</ref>
; High splat<ref group="w">Possble after 1,2,f~n or ws2,3 W! in a juggle</ref>
: [30] 4,u+3 f+4,3 d+3
; Very high splat<ref group="w">After HMS.2 W!</ref><ref group="w">Possible after 4,3,4 in a juggle</ref>
: [30] u/f+3+4 d/f+1 f+4,3 d+3
: [29] f,F+3 d/f+1 f+4,3 d+3
; Side splat
: b+4 d+3
: (f+4),3 d+3
: d/f+4
: f,F+3
; Reverse splat
: b+4 u/b+3
: (f+4),3 u/b+3
; Wall bounce
: 4,u+3 f+4,3 d+3
: ss 4,3,4 W! b+2,f~n f+4,3 d+3
: ss 4,3,4 W! 4,u+3 f+4,3 d+3
; vs Gigas, Jack, and Marduk
: replace d+3 with 3<ref group="w">1 less damage, but they can block the d+3</ref>
; vs Fahkumram (regular splat)
: [25] ws2,4 D+4,4,4,4
; vs bears
: replace d+3 with D+4,4,4&lt;4<ref group="w">Breaks walls with a non-delayed 4, but the bear player can prevent this with a spring kick</ref>
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== Guaranteed Hits ==
== Guaranteed Hits ==

Revision as of 21:46, 12 May 2021

Bread n' butter

Bread n' butter combos are juggles that:

  • Work on as many different launchers as possible
  • Work on all body sizes

Launchers that require unique combos go straight to ยง Staples.

Launcher Combo
Max Damage (df2, uf3, cd1, BT uf4 Only) cd1, df1, b+2, cd+2 S! QCF 1_b+2,1_d+2>2>1
Damage and Carry d+2,2 2 d+2,1 S! QCF 1_b+2,1_d+2>2>1
Opponent is Far Away After Launch 3~4~U, DGF 2, DGF 4 S! dash QCF 1_b+2,1_d+2>2>1
Consistency df1, d+2,2 df+1,2 S! (small pause) QCF 1_b+2,1_d+2>2>1
No Sword Stance Max Damage f+3+4, dash 1+4, b+2, cd2 S! QCF 1_b+2,1_d+2>2>1
Launchers That Leave Yoshi Crouched WS4, b+2, KIN b+2, CD2 S! QCF 1_b+2,1_d+2>2>1
Max Wall Carry cd+2 S! dash 1 b+1 b+1 b+1 b+2,1

Staples

d/f+2
u/f+3
KIN b+2,1
FC D/F+1
1+4
R.u/b+1+4
CH (d+2),2
CH (d+2,2),d+1
Low Parry
[46] d+2,2 2 d2,1 S! QCF+1[1][2]
[38] d+2,2 2 d2,1 S! b+2,1[3]
d/f+2
[43] f+3 S! d/f+1, 2, b+2,1,1+2~KIN f+2
[35] f+3 S! f+1 b+1 b+1 b+1 b+2,1
[49] f,n,d,D/F+1 d/f+1 b+2 f,n,d,D/F+2 S! QCF+1[4]
u/f+3
[43] f+3 S! d/f+1, 2, b+2,1,1+2~KIN f+2
[35] f+3 S! f+1 b+1 b+1 b+1 b+2,1
[49] f,n,d,D/F+1 d/f+1 b+2 f,n,d,D/F+2 S! QCF+1[4][5]
f,F+4
[39] bt.2 S! d/f+1, 2, b+2,1,1+2~KIN f+2
[42] delay bt.4 f,n,d,D/F+2 S! d/f+1 b+2,1,1+2~KIN f+2
Low Parry
[45] NSS u/f+3 1+4 f,n,d,D/F+2 S! f+3+4~FLE.2

Wall

Damage values are with max juggle scaling, without rage, and no breaks.
Regular splat[w 1]
[23][w 2] b+2,f~n f+4,3 d+3
[23] d/f+1 f+4,3 d+3
[20] 4,3<4
Low splat[w 3]
[19] d+4,4,3,3
[18] d+4,4,u+3[w 4]
High splat[w 5]
[30] 4,u+3 f+4,3 d+3
Very high splat[w 6][w 7]
[30] u/f+3+4 d/f+1 f+4,3 d+3
[29] f,F+3 d/f+1 f+4,3 d+3
Side splat
b+4 d+3
(f+4),3 d+3
d/f+4
f,F+3
Reverse splat
b+4 u/b+3
(f+4),3 u/b+3
Wall bounce
4,u+3 f+4,3 d+3
ss 4,3,4 W! b+2,f~n f+4,3 d+3
ss 4,3,4 W! 4,u+3 f+4,3 d+3
vs Gigas, Jack, and Marduk
replace d+3 with 3[w 8]
vs Fahkumram (regular splat)
[25] ws2,4 D+4,4,4,4
vs bears
replace d+3 with D+4,4,4<4[w 9]
  1. โ†‘ Common after ws2,3 or f+1+2 or d+2 W! in a juggle
  2. โ†‘ Does more damage than d/f+1 with less scaling
  3. โ†‘ Common after f+2,1 W! in a juggle
  4. โ†‘ Recovers faster, so better oki
  5. โ†‘ Possble after 1,2,f~n or ws2,3 W! in a juggle
  6. โ†‘ After HMS.2 W!
  7. โ†‘ Possible after 4,3,4 in a juggle
  8. โ†‘ 1 less damage, but they can block the d+3
  9. โ†‘ Breaks walls with a non-delayed 4, but the bear player can prevent this with a spring kick


Guaranteed Hits

KIN.1+2
f,F+2,2[6]
BT d+1
CH KIN f+1
CH (d/f+3),1
CH d+1
CH (1),1
CH BT d+1
1SS f,n,d,D/F+1
CH 1SS (1,2),1
d/f+1+2 ws4 b+2,1,1+2~KIN f+2
f,n,d,D/F+2 S! d2,2 b2,1,1+2~KIN f+2[7]
CH b+1
1SS.1,1
NSS.2,1
NSS.1+4
CH NSS.2
NSS 1+4[8]


General Concepts

Yoshimitsu has many combo routes with different goals like wall carry, okizeme, and guaranteed damage. In addition, because No Sword Stance removes damage and weakens hitboxes on some attacks, and in compensation gives him NSS f+3+4 as a filler attack, the routes in No Sword Stance vary completely from One Sword Stance combos.

Wall Carry

Yoshimitsu has control over the wall carry he does have. He may not go wall-to-wall on most stages, but he can get a clean wall splat whenever the wall is reachable. He can interchange the following enders on any juggle: b+2,1; 3~4; d+2,2; d2>2>1[9].

If the ender is 4 hits into the juggle, he can interchange the following enders: All enders listed above; b+2,1+2~KIN b+2,1; b+2,1,1+2~KIN f+2

If KIN f+2 hits a high-wall splat, Yoshimitsu may convert into a normal wall combo. This requires precise wall distance for b+2,1 to high-splat and KIN f+2 to hit.

Okizeme

Yoshimitsu has strong mixup potential after a knockdown at the wall. Moves like f,n,d,D/F+1 and d+3 hit grounded, and FC d/f+1 (ws b+1) and u/b+1+2,2 hit an opponent standing up.

Yoshimitsu can make his KIN.3 and KIN f1 -13 and -12 respectively by ending a juggle with 3 juggle hits with b+2,1,1+2~KIN, and timing the low to hit just after their tech roll invincibility ends with the last active frames. Yoshimitsu can potentially mix up an opponent with KIN u+1+2 and KIN f~n+2.

Yoshimitsu can refloat an opponent who doesn't tech roll after a screw attack with dash up iWS.4, for a mini-combo b+2,1,1+2~KIN f+2 or b+2,1+2~KIN b+2,1. The opponent can tech roll or hold back to avoid iWS.4, but the frame advantage is still in Yoshimitsu's favor.

Yoshimitsu can reset an opponent who tech rolls after a screw attack with dash up FC d/f+1. In the open most characters can avoid this by staying down or holding back.

Yoshimitsu can reset an opponent who holds back after a juggle with 3~4u which is a complete reset. Yoshimitsu can screw again with DGF 4 S! This can be avoided by tech rolling or staying down.


External links

  1. โ†‘ As-known-as the Granny Combo. Doesn't work off-axis.
  2. โ†‘ Moonsault Slayer guaranteed with sufficient delay.
  3. โ†‘ Or any wall carry ender
  4. โ†‘ 4.0 4.1 CD+1 MUST be buffered.
  5. โ†‘ d/f+1 whiffs versus most females.
  6. โ†‘ Only against Marduk, Jack-7, Gigas, Fahkumram
  7. โ†‘ Only against Kuma and Panda
  8. โ†‘ Axis-dependent, character-dependent. Whiffs against some females.
  9. โ†‘ Requires a fast, deep dash