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This is important, as moves cause different situations on hit and block. Generally if a move gets blocked - you lost your turn, and shouldn't press more buttons, unless you really want to. Launchers often have more difficult versions for a combo due to the difficulty of hit confirming it, as an example after a successful magic 4 there might be a very tight follow-up, which isn't that hard in practice, but in the actual situation one has to react very quickly to perform the combo, thus an easier follow-up is often preferred.  
This is important, as moves cause different situations on hit and block. Generally if a move gets blocked - you lost your turn, and shouldn't press more buttons, unless you really want to. Launchers often have more difficult versions for a combo due to the difficulty of hit confirming it, as an example after a successful magic 4 there might be a very tight follow-up, which isn't that hard in practice, but in the actual situation one has to react very quickly to perform the combo, thus an easier follow-up is often preferred.  


But mainly hit confirming refers to strings guaranteed to hit if one of the first hits connected. Often without confirming the strings are very punishable
But mainly hit confirming refers to strings guaranteed to hit if one of the first hits connected. Often without confirming the strings are very punishable.
 
There are several ways of confirming:
There are several ways of confirming:
* Twitch confirming - when the confirmable move is barely delayable if at all, the only cue you might get enough in advance or at all is if opponent's body moved at all near the time of hit, chances are - they were trying to do a move, and thus it was a counter hit. Obviously this method is inconsistent, but it might be the only thing to look for.
Examples:
:Lei Razor Rush f,n,1,2,1,2
:Sidestep into immediate d/f+1 string


=== Hit spark & Hitstun ===
[[File:Lei_hitconfirm_Wolf_Rush.mp4|250px|thumb|right|Lei Wolf Rush: hit spark is different on block, hit, and counter hit]]
[[File:Lei_hitconfirm_Wolf_Rush.mp4|250px|thumb|right|Lei Wolf Rush: hit spark is different on block, hit, and counter hit]]
* Hit spark cue - when a move gets blocked, you see white sparks, when a move hit, and the move dealt less than 20 damage, you see red sparks, on counter hit moves deal additional damage, possibly exceeding 20 damage, causing the big spark, that you can customize in-game. This visual cue is very consistent, but requires very delayable hits, especially when it goes for counter hit confirming vs hit confirming. Some strings may only be counter hit confirmable in Rage.
When a move gets blocked, you see white sparks, when a move hit, and the move dealt less than 20 damage, you see red sparks, on counter hit moves deal additional damage, possibly exceeding 20 damage, causing the big spark, that you can customize in-game.  
Examples:
:Mishima 1,1,2 (hit confirm)
:Mishima Twin Pistons (hit confirm)
:Lei Wolf Rush f,n,4,1,2,3 (both hit and counter hit confirm)


* Animation change - similar to spark cue, some moves cause different opponent animation depending on if they got hit, or got counter hit. Can be more inconsistent depending on the animation, and also requires very delayable hits.
Some characters have strings with natural hit properties and delayable parts, which is rare in Tekken. Characters like the Mishimas can press 1,1 and see by the hitstun(not exclusive to the hit spark) if the character blocked or no, and visually confirming into '''2''', which is guaranteed on hit.  
The visual cues generally are very consistent, but requires very delayable hits for proper confirming, especially when it goes for counter hit confirming vs hit confirming, to avoid any mistake.
Examples:
Examples:
:Zafina d+1,1
:Mishima 1,1<'''2''' (You can delay the second 1 into 2)
:Bryan d/f+1,1,1<'''1,2''' (the 2 cannot be delayed but the 1 can, so you use/delay the first three hits to confirm into 1,2)
:Lei Wolf Rush f,n,4,1,'''2,3''' (2 can be confirmed naturally but 3 only on Counter Hit)
:Law f,F+2<'''3''' (A single hit with delay to confirm into 3)<ref group="*">[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-8K5SiQweI&t=643s It's Tekken 6 but i find suitable here]</ref>


=== Sound cue ===
[[File:Zaf_d43_chconfirm.mp4|200px|thumb|right|Zafina d+4,3: game produces a very loud unmistakable sound on counterhit]]
[[File:Zaf_d43_chconfirm.mp4|200px|thumb|right|Zafina d+4,3: game produces a very loud unmistakable sound on counterhit]]
* Sound cue - by far the best confirmer, as human beings do react faster to sound compared to visuals, confirming normal hit is very easy because blocking sound is so different. On counter hit some moves cause a loud unmistakable sound effect, also helping counter hit confirming strings
Some moves have a explosive or very distinguishable sound effect, sometimes helped by a zoom of the camera(e.g. Steve b+1), confirming normal hit is very easy because blocking sound is so different. On counter hit some moves cause a loud unmistakable sound effect, also helping counter hit confirming strings.
Examples:
Examples:
:Lei b+4,1
:Lei b+4,1
:Zafina d+4,3
:Zafina d+4,3
:Any launcher
:Steve b+1
 
=== Twitch confirming ===
when the confirmable move is barely delayable if at all, the only cue you might get enough in advance or at all is if opponent's body moved at all near the time of hit, chances are - they were trying to do a move, and thus it was a counter hit. By far the most inconsistent, it's recommended only strings which aren't too much negative or punishable on block.
Examples:
:Lei Razor Rush f,n,1,2,1,2
:Sidestep into immediate d/f+1 string
 
=== Animation change === similar to spark cue, some moves cause different opponent animation depending on if they got hit, or got counter hit. Can be more inconsistent depending on the animation, and also requires very delayable hits.
Examples:
:Zafina d+1,1
 
=== Whiff confirming ===


== Whiff confirming ==
Some moves have a bigger recovery on whiff instead if it was blocked, being locked on a longer animation and sometimes on a recognizable pose or animation. You generally will be searching for whiffs with movement, baiting for attacks while you focus on your opponent and how he will react to your actions.


If a move whiffs, it's good to know exactly what's happening instead of just hoping opponent whiffed.
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Revision as of 09:43, 18 July 2021

Hit confirming is the ability to react to cues to know if a move hit, counter hit, or got blocked. In case of CH it's called counter hit confirming.

This is important, as moves cause different situations on hit and block. Generally if a move gets blocked - you lost your turn, and shouldn't press more buttons, unless you really want to. Launchers often have more difficult versions for a combo due to the difficulty of hit confirming it, as an example after a successful magic 4 there might be a very tight follow-up, which isn't that hard in practice, but in the actual situation one has to react very quickly to perform the combo, thus an easier follow-up is often preferred.

But mainly hit confirming refers to strings guaranteed to hit if one of the first hits connected. Often without confirming the strings are very punishable. There are several ways of confirming:

Hit spark & Hitstun

Lei Wolf Rush: hit spark is different on block, hit, and counter hit

When a move gets blocked, you see white sparks, when a move hit, and the move dealt less than 20 damage, you see red sparks, on counter hit moves deal additional damage, possibly exceeding 20 damage, causing the big spark, that you can customize in-game.

Some characters have strings with natural hit properties and delayable parts, which is rare in Tekken. Characters like the Mishimas can press 1,1 and see by the hitstun(not exclusive to the hit spark) if the character blocked or no, and visually confirming into 2, which is guaranteed on hit. The visual cues generally are very consistent, but requires very delayable hits for proper confirming, especially when it goes for counter hit confirming vs hit confirming, to avoid any mistake. Examples:

Mishima 1,1<2 (You can delay the second 1 into 2)
Bryan d/f+1,1,1<1,2 (the 2 cannot be delayed but the 1 can, so you use/delay the first three hits to confirm into 1,2)
Lei Wolf Rush f,n,4,1,2,3 (2 can be confirmed naturally but 3 only on Counter Hit)
Law f,F+2<3 (A single hit with delay to confirm into 3)[* 1]

Sound cue

Zafina d+4,3: game produces a very loud unmistakable sound on counterhit

Some moves have a explosive or very distinguishable sound effect, sometimes helped by a zoom of the camera(e.g. Steve b+1), confirming normal hit is very easy because blocking sound is so different. On counter hit some moves cause a loud unmistakable sound effect, also helping counter hit confirming strings. Examples:

Lei b+4,1
Zafina d+4,3
Steve b+1

Twitch confirming

when the confirmable move is barely delayable if at all, the only cue you might get enough in advance or at all is if opponent's body moved at all near the time of hit, chances are - they were trying to do a move, and thus it was a counter hit. By far the most inconsistent, it's recommended only strings which aren't too much negative or punishable on block. Examples:

Lei Razor Rush f,n,1,2,1,2
Sidestep into immediate d/f+1 string

=== Animation change === similar to spark cue, some moves cause different opponent animation depending on if they got hit, or got counter hit. Can be more inconsistent depending on the animation, and also requires very delayable hits. Examples:

Zafina d+1,1

Whiff confirming

Some moves have a bigger recovery on whiff instead if it was blocked, being locked on a longer animation and sometimes on a recognizable pose or animation. You generally will be searching for whiffs with movement, baiting for attacks while you focus on your opponent and how he will react to your actions.

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