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{{Combolist|columns=1|
 
{{Combolist|columns=1|
 
; Regular launch (e.g. df+2)
 
; Regular launch (e.g. df+2)
: combo here
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: b+1 ws1,2,3 4 S! wr3,4
  
 
; Crouching recovery (e.g. CH FUFT.3)
 
; Crouching recovery (e.g. CH FUFT.3)
: combo here
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: ws1,2,3 b+2,4 S! wr3,4
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; Instant screw (CH 4)
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: b+1 ws1,2 1 db+2,2
 
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; CH (df+1),4
 
; CH (df+1),4
: [40] OG.db+1+2<ref>Beats everything except b,db and most chars can't punish it on block.</ref>
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: [40] OG.db+1+2<ref name="rocket-sus">Beats everything except b,db and most chars can't punish it on block.</ref>
 
: [33] d+3<ref>Can side switch if they stay down.</ref>
 
: [33] d+3<ref>Can side switch if they stay down.</ref>
 
: [32] d+4
 
: [32] d+4
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 +
; (2,3),4
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: [40] OG.db+1+2<ref name="rocket-sus"/>
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: [38] db+4
  
 
; CH (1),1
 
; CH (1),1
 
: [41] OG.db+1+2
 
: [41] OG.db+1+2
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: [39] db+4
  
 
; f+3,2
 
; f+3,2
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: [+45] f+2 df+1,1 d+4,1+2 S! d+3~1
 
: [+45] f+2 df+1,1 d+4,1+2 S! d+3~1
 
: [+43] b+1 ws1,2,3 4 S! wr3,4
 
: [+43] b+1 ws1,2,3 4 S! wr3,4
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: [+42]<ref>Works when off-axis to the left.</ref> 4 S! f+3+4~1,2,1,3+4
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: [+36] 2,3<3 S! f+4,1,4
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: [+35]<ref>Most reliable off-axis combo.</ref> 4 S! f,F+3,4,4
  
; [30] db+1~4
+
; above launchers
 
; [23] f,F+1+2
 
; [23] f,F+1+2
; [22] SBT.4
 
 
; [22] (1,2),2*
 
; [22] (1,2),2*
; [21] 1+2
 
; [20] uf+4,4
 
 
; [20] d+3+4
 
; [20] d+3+4
 
; [20] db+1~2
 
; [20] db+1~2
; [16] df+2
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; [20] CH b+4
; low parry
+
; [20] CH SBT.3
 
: [+48] ws1<ref name="iws1">Tight timing on [[instant while standing]] after df+2, d+3+4, and f,F+1+2. After db+1~2, need to do a small dash as well.</ref>,2,3 1 f,f b+2,4 S! f,f d+3~1
 
: [+48] ws1<ref name="iws1">Tight timing on [[instant while standing]] after df+2, d+3+4, and f,F+1+2. After db+1~2, need to do a small dash as well.</ref>,2,3 1 f,f b+2,4 S! f,f d+3~1
 
: [+47] ws1<ref name="iws1"/>,2,3 d+4,1+2 S! d+3~1
 
: [+47] ws1<ref name="iws1"/>,2,3 d+4,1+2 S! d+3~1
 
: [+43] ws1<ref name="iws1"/>,2,3 d+4,1+2 S! wr3,4
 
: [+43] ws1<ref name="iws1"/>,2,3 d+4,1+2 S! wr3,4
 
: [+42] ws1<ref name="iws1"/>,2,3 b+2,4 S! wr3,4
 
: [+42] ws1<ref name="iws1"/>,2,3 b+2,4 S! wr3,4
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 +
; above launchers
 +
; [30] db+1~3 f,F
 +
; [27] DES.uf+1+2,1+2
 +
; [20] CH (b+2),1
 +
: [+39] d+4,1+2 S! f+2 f+4,1,4
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: [+39] d+4,1+2 S! f+2 1 uf+3,2
 +
: [+38] d+4,1+2 S! ws1,2 1 wr2
 +
: [+36] d+4,1+2 S! ws1,2 1 b,f+2
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: [+35] d+4,1+2 S! ws1,2 db+2,2
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: [+35] d+4,1+2 S! f,F+3,4,4
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; [28] CH 4
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: [+38] ws1,2,3 1 uf+3,2
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: [+37] ws1,2,3 1 f,F+2,3
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: [+36] ws1,2,3 1 f,f 1 wr2
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: [+35] b+1 ws1,2 1 uf+3,2
 +
: [+34] ws1,2,3 1 f,f 1 b,f+2
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: [+30] b+1 ws1,2 1 db+2,2
 +
 +
; [20] CH d+3
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: [+48] (Backup).1 S! ws1,2,3 1 wr2
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: [+46] (Backup).1 S! ws1,2,3 1 b,f+2
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: [+44] ws4 1,1 d+4,1+2 S! d+3~1
 +
: [+39] ws4 1,1 d+4,1+2 S! wr3,4
 +
 +
; [20] CH (b+2),1
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: [+45] df+1,1 f+2 d+4,1+2 S! d+3~1
 +
: [+41] df+1,1 f+2 b+2,4 S! wr3,4
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: [+40] df+1,1 f+2 b+2,4 S! wr3,4
  
 
; 1+2
 
; 1+2
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; f,F+3,4,4
 
; f,F+3,4,4
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: [71] df+2 df+1 1 uf+3,2
 
: [70] f+3+4~1,2,1,3+4
 
: [70] f+3+4~1,2,1,3+4
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: [69] df+2 df+1 df+1 d+4,1+2
 
: [69] ws1,2,3 1 b,f+2
 
: [69] ws1,2,3 1 b,f+2
  
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: [+48] SBT.3 ws1,2,3 4 S! f,f d+3~1
 
: [+48] SBT.3 ws1,2,3 4 S! f,f d+3~1
  
; [30] db+1~3 f,F
+
; DES.2,(During hit).1
; [27] DES.uf+1+2,1+2
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: [62] f,F+3,4,4 S! d+3~1
: [+39] d+4,1+2 S! f+2 1 uf+3,2
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: [62] <f+2<ref>Delay is necessary vs most chars and doesn't work at tip range. Very tight timing.</ref> df+1 b+2,4 S! f,f d+3~1
 
 
; DES.2,1
 
: [62] <f+2<ref>Can whiff if not delayed vs smalls.</ref> df+1 b+2,4 S! f,f d+3~1
 
  
 
; DES.f+1+2
 
; DES.f+1+2
 
: [73] DES.df+1+2 S! DES.f+3+4~2,1
 
: [73] DES.df+1+2 S! DES.f+3+4~2,1
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; b+3+4
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: [+45] f+2 df+1,1 d+4,1+2 S! d+3~1
 
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{{Combolist|
 
{{Combolist|
 
; Regular carry (30% scaling)
 
; Regular carry (30% scaling)
: combo here
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: [+21] 1 f,F+1+2,(During hit).2
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: [+19] f,F+1+2,(During hit).2
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: [+19] 1 2<ref>«W! 1 2» only works vs large males.</ref>,3,3
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: [+17] ws1,2<3
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: [+17] 1,2 f+1+2
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: [+16] 1,2,2*
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: [+16] f+2,3,3
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: [+13] DES.b+2,1
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: [+12] f+1+2
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: [+12] df+1+2
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: [+12] DES.df+1+2
 
}}
 
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<references/>
  
 
== Float ==
 
== Float ==
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{{Combolist|
 
{{Combolist|
 
; df+2
 
; df+2
: combo when you hit df+2 in the back
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: 4 S! f,F+3,4,4
 
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Latest revision as of 13:08, 24 January 2022

Bread n' butter

Bread n' butter combos are juggles that:

  • Work on as many different launchers as possible
  • Work on all body sizes

Launchers that require unique combos go straight to § Staples.

Regular launch (e.g. df+2)
b+1 ws1,2,3 4 S! wr3,4
Crouching recovery (e.g. CH FUFT.3)
ws1,2,3 b+2,4 S! wr3,4
Instant screw (CH 4)
b+1 ws1,2 1 db+2,2

Mini-combos

[20] ws1+2
[24] ws1+2*
[+13] cc d+3
db+4
[36] cc d+3[1]
CH (df+3),3
[33] d+3
CH (df+1),4
[40] OG.db+1+2[2]
[33] d+3[3]
[32] d+4
(2,3),4
[40] OG.db+1+2[2]
[38] db+4
CH (1),1
[41] OG.db+1+2
[39] db+4
f+3,2
[52] DES.f+3+4~2,1
b+4,4,3+4
[64] SBT.1,2,1,3+4
wr2
[50] f+1+2[4]
  1. Whiffs at tip range vs B getup.
  2. 2.0 2.1 Beats everything except b,db and most chars can't punish it on block.
  3. Can side switch if they stay down.
  4. Whiffs at tip range unless you do a super tight micro dash with f,f,f+1+2.

Staples

Staple combos are juggles that:

  • Can be done consistently by a skilled player
  • Either work on all body sizes, or the characters it does work on are comprehensively listed
  • Are not strictly worse than another combo listed in terms of difficulty, damage, wall carry, and oki
[30] db+1~4
[22] SBT.4
[21] 1+2
[20] uf+4,4
[16] df+2
low parry
[+47] b+1 ws1,2,3 4 S! f,f d+3~1
[+45] f+2 df+1,1 d+4,1+2 S! d+3~1
[+43] b+1 ws1,2,3 4 S! wr3,4
[+42][1] 4 S! f+3+4~1,2,1,3+4
[+36] 2,3<3 S! f+4,1,4
[+35][2] 4 S! f,F+3,4,4
above launchers
[23] f,F+1+2
[22] (1,2),2*
[20] d+3+4
[20] db+1~2
[20] CH b+4
[20] CH SBT.3
[+48] ws1[3],2,3 1 f,f b+2,4 S! f,f d+3~1
[+47] ws1[3],2,3 d+4,1+2 S! d+3~1
[+43] ws1[3],2,3 d+4,1+2 S! wr3,4
[+42] ws1[3],2,3 b+2,4 S! wr3,4
above launchers
[30] db+1~3 f,F
[27] DES.uf+1+2,1+2
[20] CH (b+2),1
[+39] d+4,1+2 S! f+2 f+4,1,4
[+39] d+4,1+2 S! f+2 1 uf+3,2
[+38] d+4,1+2 S! ws1,2 1 wr2
[+36] d+4,1+2 S! ws1,2 1 b,f+2
[+35] d+4,1+2 S! ws1,2 db+2,2
[+35] d+4,1+2 S! f,F+3,4,4
[28] CH 4
[+38] ws1,2,3 1 uf+3,2
[+37] ws1,2,3 1 f,F+2,3
[+36] ws1,2,3 1 f,f 1 wr2
[+35] b+1 ws1,2 1 uf+3,2
[+34] ws1,2,3 1 f,f 1 b,f+2
[+30] b+1 ws1,2 1 db+2,2
[20] CH d+3
[+48] (Backup).1 S! ws1,2,3 1 wr2
[+46] (Backup).1 S! ws1,2,3 1 b,f+2
[+44] ws4 1,1 d+4,1+2 S! d+3~1
[+39] ws4 1,1 d+4,1+2 S! wr3,4
[20] CH (b+2),1
[+45] df+1,1 f+2 d+4,1+2 S! d+3~1
[+41] df+1,1 f+2 b+2,4 S! wr3,4
[+40] df+1,1 f+2 b+2,4 S! wr3,4
1+2
[70] ssr ws1,2,3 f,f df+1 b+2,4 S! f,f d+3~1
SBT.4
[69] ws1+2** ws1,2 1 4 s! f,f d+3~1
f,F+3,4,4
[71] df+2 df+1 1 uf+3,2
[70] f+3+4~1,2,1,3+4
[69] df+2 df+1 df+1 d+4,1+2
[69] ws1,2,3 1 b,f+2
[24] ws2,3+4
[37] R.f+2+3,3+4
[+48] SBT.3 ws1,2,3 4 S! f,f d+3~1
DES.2,(During hit).1
[62] f,F+3,4,4 S! d+3~1
[62] <f+2[4] df+1 b+2,4 S! f,f d+3~1
DES.f+1+2
[73] DES.df+1+2 S! DES.f+3+4~2,1
b+3+4
[+45] f+2 df+1,1 d+4,1+2 S! d+3~1
  1. Works when off-axis to the left.
  2. Most reliable off-axis combo.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 Tight timing on instant while standing after df+2, d+3+4, and f,F+1+2. After db+1~2, need to do a small dash as well.
  4. Delay is necessary vs most chars and doesn't work at tip range. Very tight timing.

Rage

df+2
combo for df+2 with rage here

Wall

Regular carry (30% scaling)
[+21] 1 f,F+1+2,(During hit).2
[+19] f,F+1+2,(During hit).2
[+19] 1 2[1],3,3
[+17] ws1,2<3
[+17] 1,2 f+1+2
[+16] 1,2,2*
[+16] f+2,3,3
[+13] DES.b+2,1
[+12] f+1+2
[+12] df+1+2
[+12] DES.df+1+2
  1. «W! 1 2» only works vs large males.

Float

1
combo when you anti-air with jab here

Back-turned opponent

df+2
4 S! f,F+3,4,4

Stage break

Howard Estate
big boy break all the walls combo here

Extras

Extra combos are juggles that are:

  • Strictly worse than one of the § Staples; or
  • Too inconsistent to be a staple; or
  • Joke combos for style points.

Infinite Stage Combos

Bread and Butter combos - works on a majority of launchers

    (1) [Launch] < ws1.2.3 < d4.1+2 < d3~1      [+47 HP] reliable damage but w/exceptions
    (2) [Launch] < b1 < ws1.2.3 < 4 < d3~1      [+47 HP] reliable w/o any skew
    (3) [Launch] < f2 < df1.1 < d4.1+2 < d3~1   [+45 HP] old BnB, most reliable 
    (4) [Launch] < df1.1 < f2 < d4.1+2 < d3~1   [+45 HP] old BnB, most reliable

Launchers compatible w/all 4 Bread and Butter combos:

    (a) uf4.4     [20 HP]       (d) BKP 2    [23 HP]       (h) SBT 4    [27 HP]
    (b) df2       [16 HP]       (e) BKP 3    [30 HP]
    (c) 1+2       [21 HP]       (f) BKP 4    [30 HP]

Launchers w/compatibility issues:

    (i) CH b4      [20 HP, incompatible w/(2)]
    (j) ff1+2      [23 HP, only compatible w/(1)]
    (k) (1.2).2*   [22 HP, recovers FC, compatible w/(1) only]
    (l) CH (1.2).2 [20 HP, recovers FC, compatible w/(1) only]
    (m) CH SBT 3   [20 HP, recovers FC, compatible w/(1) only]
    (n) DES uf1+2  [27 HP, incompatible w/(2)]

Launcher w/unique fillers + enders:

    (o) f3.2 < DBT 2.1                         [52 HP]
    (p) f3.2 < DBT 3 < ws 4 < df1.1 < d3       [60 HP]
    (q) b4.4 < SBT 1.2.1.3+4                   [64 HP]
    (r) ws2 < DBT 3 < ws1.2.3 < 4 < d3~1       [72 HP]
    (s) ff3.4.4 < df2 < df1 < f1 < uf3.2       [71 HP]
    (t) CH d3 < BKP 1 < df2 < df1 < f1 < uf3.2 [68 HP]
    (u) ws1+2** < d4.1+2 < f2 < f1 < uf3.2
    (v) CH (b2).1 <  d4.1+2 < f2 < f1 < uf3.2
    (w) DES 2.1...
    (x) DES f1+2 < DES df1+2 < DBT 2.1         [73 HP]
    (y) BT 3+4
    (z) BT uf4

Single Hit Screw Launcher filler

    (5) [Launch] < ws1.2.3 < f1 < uf3.2        [+38 HP]

Single Hit Screw Launchers

    (aa) CH 4       [28 HP] 
    (ab) CH (2.3).3 [30 HP]
    (ac) CH (2).4   [25 HP]
    (ad) CH (b2).4  [24 HP]    
    (ae) CH (ws3)~3 [24 HP]
    (af) (ws3*).3   [22 HP]
    

Rage Combos

The General Rule of thumb is that Alisa is better off going for the Rage Art (for more damage) than the Rage Drive unless there's enough carry to add a wall ender.

Floor, Wall, Balcony breaks are simply not enough to justify the use of her Rage Drive, which has the primary function of adding travel.

Where possible, using the screw as early as possible will net with an average of +2 HP when compared to changing d4.1+2 for b2.4, for far easier connects w/her Art

    uf4.4 < b3 < ws1.2.3 < [Rage Art]     [82~93 HP]
    uf4.4 < ws1.2.3 < b2.4 < [Rage Art]   [81~92 HP]
Infinite Stage Combos w/Rage
    df2 < 4 < ws1.2.3 < [Rage Art]        [76~87 HP]
    CH 4 < b1 < ws1.2.3 < [Rage Art]      [83~94 HP]
    uf4.4 < b3 < ws1.2.3 < [Rage Art]     [82~93 HP]
    CH b4 < ws1.2.3 < b2.4 < [Rage Art]   [78~89 HP]

missing sections/combos (to be added later)

  • in rage f2+3
  • d3+4
  • (ws3*).d3
  • (b1).1+2
  • (ws1.2).3
  • CH (b4).3
  • b3+4
  • (b3+4).3+4
  • stronger + harder/weaker + easier combo routes
  • Rage (more detail)
  • Wall carry, Enders
  • Wall Combos
  • Floor Break Combos

[all information subject to change, just wrote this from memory- will double check all at a later date]

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