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** If you tried to do d/f+1~f SAV mixup, you'd lose to jabs or counter hit attacks
** If you tried to do d/f+1~f SAV mixup, you'd lose to jabs or counter hit attacks
** Use your superior side step and back dash to make mashers and dick jabbers pay, by making them whiff
** Use your superior side step and back dash to make mashers and dick jabbers pay, by making them whiff
** Once they stop mashing, you can add a low and a safe mid, d/f+1~f SAV d/b+3~f SAV b+1
** Once they stop mashing, you can add a SAV mixup 50/50
*** E.g. #1 low and a safe mid, d/f+1~f SAV d/b+3~f SAV b+1
*** E.g. #2 d/f+1~f SAV 2 high damage mid
*** E.g. #3 d/f+1~f delay to see if they guess, or side step, or try to attack


== Approach ==
== Approach ==
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* u/f+1[~f] SAV +4 on block
* u/f+1[~f] SAV +4 on block
** u/f+1~f SAV d/f+2 guaranteed on everyone but Dragunov, Fahkumram, Marduk, and Miguel (talls)
** u/f+1~f SAV d/f+2 guaranteed on everyone but Dragunov, Fahkumram, Marduk, and Miguel (talls)
* f+4[~f]: homing, +7 into SAV on hit
* f+4[~f]: homing, +7 into SAV on hit, longer range
** Important tool for tracking, both up close, and far away
* d+4: Long range low, +0 on hit
* d+4: Long range low, +0 on hit


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== Keepout ==
== Keepout ==
* Jabs: 1 or 1,2
* Jabs: 1 or 1,2
* 4:  
* 4: high, longer range hit box
** Magic 4 starts a juggle on counter hit
** Magic 4 starts a juggle on counter hit
* b+1:  
* b+1: high, small hit box
** Starts a high damage juggle on counter hit
** Starts a high damage juggle on counter hit
** Very short range and doesn't track
** Very short range and doesn't track
** Can be used to interrupt strings or flow charts
** Can be used to interrupt strings or flow charts
* d+3:  
* d+3: high crush low
** +1 on hit, high crush low
** +1 on hit
** However is slow at i20
** However is slow at i20
* d+1+2:
* d+1+2: mid
** -12 on block, high crush, wall splat and wall break
** -12 on block, high crush, wall splat and wall break


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** This means, you can do d/f+1 and choose to enter SAV stance or not
** This means, you can do d/f+1 and choose to enter SAV stance or not
** You may enter SAV stance regardless of if the attack whiffs, is blocked, or hits
** You may enter SAV stance regardless of if the attack whiffs, is blocked, or hits
* Enter SAV stance anytime with 3+4
** Takes 8 frames and you can be hit during this


=== SAV Stance basics ===
=== SAV Stance basics ===
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* SAV b+3[~f SAV]: Power crush, high
* SAV b+3[~f SAV]: Power crush, high
** SAV b+3~f SAV d/f+2 is a combo on hit
** SAV b+3~f SAV d/f+2 is a combo on hit
* SAV 4: homing, i16, CH launcher, KND on normal hit with free 3+4 SAV d/f+2


== Elbow/Knee ==
== Elbow/Knee ==

Revision as of 22:35, 29 August 2021

1. Wait: Try to bait out a whiff 2. Approach: Approach an enemy and attack them 3. Keep out: Attack to stop an enemy from approach and attacking you

Wait: Movement

  • Miguel's back dash and side step are superior to almost all other characters.
  • Try out different spacing and timings to try to get your opponent to whiff.
  • Mixup entering SAV stance or not
    • E.g. d/f+1 blocked is -2
    • If you tried to do d/f+1~f SAV mixup, you'd lose to jabs or counter hit attacks
    • Use your superior side step and back dash to make mashers and dick jabbers pay, by making them whiff
    • Once they stop mashing, you can add a SAV mixup 50/50
      • E.g. #1 low and a safe mid, d/f+1~f SAV d/b+3~f SAV b+1
      • E.g. #2 d/f+1~f SAV 2 high damage mid
      • E.g. #3 d/f+1~f delay to see if they guess, or side step, or try to attack

Approach

Mix up your approach tools and timing

  • d/f+1[~f] SAV -2 on block, +5 on hit
    • Weak to SSL
  • d/b+3[~f] SAV +4 on hit.
    • Weak to SSR
  • u/f+1[~f] SAV +4 on block
    • u/f+1~f SAV d/f+2 guaranteed on everyone but Dragunov, Fahkumram, Marduk, and Miguel (talls)
  • f+4[~f]: homing, +7 into SAV on hit, longer range
    • Important tool for tracking, both up close, and far away
  • d+4: Long range low, +0 on hit

Approach/Keepout Combined

How to approach some who is trying to keep you out

  • Back dash or side step if they are being predictable to try to bait a whiff
  • Jab: 1 and 1,2 are important to interrupt the opponent timing.
    • 1,2: Tracking isn't very good, but sometimes the 2nd hit track
    • Sometimes do 1,2,4 to interrupt opponent, but risky since they can duck and launch 3rd hit
  • d/b+3+4: i12 generic low kick with superior range

Keepout

  • Jabs: 1 or 1,2
  • 4: high, longer range hit box
    • Magic 4 starts a juggle on counter hit
  • b+1: high, small hit box
    • Starts a high damage juggle on counter hit
    • Very short range and doesn't track
    • Can be used to interrupt strings or flow charts
  • d+3: high crush low
    • +1 on hit
    • However is slow at i20
  • d+1+2: mid
    • -12 on block, high crush, wall splat and wall break

SAV stance

SAV (Savage) is Miguel's special stance that has a set of moves specific to SAV

  • d/f+1[~f SAV]:
    • This means, you can do d/f+1 and choose to enter SAV stance or not
    • You may enter SAV stance regardless of if the attack whiffs, is blocked, or hits
  • Enter SAV stance anytime with 3+4
    • Takes 8 frames and you can be hit during this

SAV Stance basics

  • Auto block even if you hold Forward, e.g. d/f+1~F ... (blocks move)
  • You **cannot** side step, back dash, or forward dash
  • Cancel it by ~d/b or ~d/f
  • You can low block or low parry from stance

Important SAV stance attacks

  • SAV 1 strings: i12 high strings
    • SAV 1<4: Delayable two hit string.
      • SAV 1,4: Natural combo, wall bounce
      • SAV 1<4: Delayable 2nd hit, not a natural combo on delay, 2nd hit will wall bounce if it hits
  • SAV 2: i16 mid, high damage single attack from Miguel
  • SAV b+1[~f SAV]: i14 homing mid, shorter range
    • SAV b+1<4: Delayble 2nd hit and 2nd hit is a CH launcher
      • SAV b+1,4: Natural combo
  • SAV d+4,3[~f SAV]: i15, low, mid string. High damage. -2 on hit.
  • SAV d/b+3[~f SAV]: i19, low, high damage
    • CH SAV d/b+3: Free damage. Can do manual SAV d/f+2 (3+4 SAV d/f+2) or f,f+2,1 3+4 SAV d/f+2 (difficult)
  • SAV b+3[~f SAV]: Power crush, high
    • SAV b+3~f SAV d/f+2 is a combo on hit
  • SAV 4: homing, i16, CH launcher, KND on normal hit with free 3+4 SAV d/f+2

Elbow/Knee

Sometimes you need to counter with a knee or elbow to stop certain types of reversals or parries

All mids:

  • d+2: Elbow
  • d/f+4: Knee
  • SAV 3: Knee