Noctis punishers: Difference between revisions

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Punishers for tricky moves
Various	Slide	{{{slide}}}
Generic	FUFT.4	{{{generic-a}}}
Alisa	b+4,4 b+4,4,3+4~1	{{{alisa-a}}}
Alisa	b+3+4 b+3+4,3+4	{{{alisa-b}}}
Armor King & King	db+4	{{{king-a}}}
Asuka	b+3	{{{asuka-a}}}
Claudio	f+2,2	{{{claudio-a}}}
Devil Jin	u+4 u+4,U~n_1_2_3	{{{devil-jin-a}}}
Devil Jin	R.f,n,d,df+4,3+4	{{{devil-jin-b}}}
Eddy	3~4	{{{eddy-a}}}
Eddy	b+3,3	{{{eddy-b}}}
Heihachi	f,F+2	{{{heihachi-a}}}
Jack-7	R.b+1+2	{{{jack-7-a}}}
Jack-7	d+1+2	{{{jack-7-b}}}
Law	db+3+4	{{{law-a}}}
Leroy	db+1+2	{{{leroy-a}}}
Lucky Chloe	BT.f+3+4,3+4 BT.f+3+4,3+4,3+4	{{{lucky-chloe-a}}}
Paul	d+4,2:1+2 qcf+2	{{{paul-a}}}
Xiaoyu	BT.3	{{{xiaoyu-a}}}
	BT.f+3+4,3+4	{{{xiaoyu-b}}}
	AOP.4~3	{{{xiaoyu-c}}}

Enemy	Move	Damage	Frames
Standing
-10	1,2^[1]	15	+7
Crouching
-11	ws4^[1]	18	+6
Back-turned opponent
-10	1,2,3^[1]	40	+10a (+1)
Grounded opponent
-16	d+3^[1]	9	-3a (-11)

Move	Speed	Range	Damage	Risk	Hitbox
Whiff punishers
1,2^[1]	i10	2.00	15	-1	High^[2]

↑ ^1.0 ^1.1 ^1.2 ^1.3 ^1.4 Example. Remove after substitution.
↑ Use references to add more extensive notes or details. Don't add new columns and don't fill them out with entire paragraphs.

Old table (TODO: copy to above)

Standing Punishers
Move Input	Speed	Damage	Frame Advantage
1,2	i10	15 DMG	+6
1,2,2	i10	27 DMG	+1
B1,2	i12	31 DMG	+7
B3,1	i14	37 DMG	KND, WALLSPLAT (bad situation in the open)
DF2	i15	LAUNCH	Long range
F1+2	i16	24 DMG	Use when DF2 whiffs
b4,1+2	i18	44 DMG	Best punish for Rage Arts, always kills.
F2	i20	33 DMG	Projectile, use when anything else would whiff

Crouch Punishers
Move Input	Speed	Damage	Frame Advantage
WS4	i11	15 DMG	+5
WS1,2	i13	31 DMG	+2 (forces opponent into crouch)
WS2,2	i15	LAUNCH	Screw
FC DF1	i16	25 DMG	Only use for wallsplat, otherwise do WS2,2
UF3	i17	LAUNCH

Punishment notes:

Generally, DF1,2 is gonna be better than the i14 punishes unless the opponent is at the wall where B3,1 gives a wallsplat into a wall combo.

B3,1 is generally a pretty bad punish in the open as it pushes the opponent far away while allowing them to backroll, putting you in a situation where they can step your WR1+2 after wake-up while you’re too far away to comfortably threaten their Side Step with FF1+2.

FC DF1 can be used as a punish against stagger lows in situations where WS2,2 doesn’t give a clean wallsplat.

[p-1] 1.0 ^1.1 ^1.2 ^1.3 ^1.4 Example. Remove after substitution.

[2] Use references to add more extensive notes or details. Don't add new columns and don't fill them out with entire paragraphs.

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+{{Infobox tricky moves}}
+{| class="punishers"
+| colspan="4"  class="table-cat" | Standing
+|-
+! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]]
+|-
+| -10 || 1,2<ref name="p"/> || 15 || +7
+|-
+| colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Crouching
+|-
+| -11 || ws4<ref name="p"/> || 18 || +6
+|-
+| colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Back-turned opponent
+|-
+| -10 || 1,2,3<ref name="p"/> || 40 || +10a (+1)
+|-
+| colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Grounded opponent
+|-
+| -16 || d+3<ref name="p"/> || 9 || -3a (-11)
+|}
+{| class="punishers" style="clear: both"
+| colspan="6" class="table-cat" | Whiff punishers
+|-
+! Move !! Speed !! [[Movelist#Range|Range]] !! Damage !! Risk !! Hitbox
+|-
+| 1,2<ref name="p">Example. Remove after substitution.</ref> || i10 || 2.00 || 15 || -1 || High<ref>Use references to add more extensive notes or details. Don't add new columns and don't fill them out with entire paragraphs.</ref>
+|-
+|}
+<references/>
+== Old table (TODO: copy to above) ==
 {| class="wikitable"