Yoshimitsu combos: Difference between revisions

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Notation summary for combos

Symbol	Meaning
1	Left Punch
2	Right Punch
3	Left kick
4	Right kick
u	Up
d	Down
f	Forward
b	Backward
uf	Up and forward
df	Down and forward
ub	Up and backward
db	Down and backward
n	Neutral

Symbol	Meaning
U	Up (Hold)
D	Down (Hold)
F	Forward (Hold)
B	Backward (Hold)
UF	Up and forward (Hold)
DF	Down and forward (Hold)
UB	Up and backward (Hold)
DB	Down and backward (Hold)

Symbol	Meaning
+	Pressed together
#	Pressed together, on the same frame
,^[1]	Followed by
~	Followed by, immediately
:	Followed by, tight input window
<	Followed by, with delayed input
>	Followed by, with delayed input
*	Held input

Symbol	Meaning
.^[1]	From stance
~	From stance transition^[2]
H	During Heat^[3]
R	Rage
FC	Full crouch
hFC	Half crouch
ws	While standing
wr	While running

Symbol	Meaning
T!	Tornado
W!	Wall splat
WB!	Wall break
F!	Floor break
BB!	Balcony break

Symbol	Meaning	Example	Example Meaning
CH	Counter hit	CH 1,2,3	1,2,3 where the first hit is a counter hit
CL	Clean hit	CL db+4	db+4 with a clean hit
(?)	Whiffed or blocked moves	CH (1,2),3	1,2,3 where the third hit is a counter hit
(?)	Whiffed or blocked moves	(2,2),2	2,2,2 where the first two hits whiff
(x?)	Repeat string ? times	b+2,f~n(x3)	b+2,f~n repeated 3 times
[?; ?]	Damage dealt; recoverable damage	[50; 12] ws2,3 f,F+3	Combo deals 50 damage, 12 of which is recoverable

↑ ^1.0 ^1.1 Should never have a space immediately after it.
↑ Not "for stance transition", which has no special notation and is written the same as any other input.
↑ Not Heat Available, which is not notated, since the only move done from that is Heat Burst, which is simply written 2+3.

Bread n' butter

Bread n' butter combos are juggles that:

Work on as many different launchers as possible
Work on all body sizes

Launchers that require unique combos go straight to § Staples.

Regular launch (e.g. df+2): 1+4 d+2,2,B df+1,2,1 T! 3,2,NSS.1+2

Pickup launch (e.g. NSS 1+4): d+2,2,B df+1 d+2,2,2 T! 3,2,NSS.1+2

Instant Tornado (e.g. low parry): d22b 1 f3+4 d22 f1+2

Mini-combos

[20] 1+4
[12] blocked NSS.KIN.2,1+2*
[0] CH 1SS.1+2+3: [+22] b+2,2 ^{[mini 1]}; [+14] f,n,d,df+2

[7] b+1: [+21] 1SS.1+4 ^{[mini 2]}

[12] CH 2 ^{[mini 3]}
[9] CH b+1: [+24] NSS.1+4

[20] f,F+3,1+2: [+17] KIN.f+2^{[mini 1]}

[24] CH (df+3),1SS.1
[22] CH (1),1SS.1: [+18] 1SS.f+1+2; [+17] 1SS.f,n,d,df+1

[30] NSS.2,1 ^{[mini 4]}
[21] uf+4^{[mini 4]}
[25] NSS.1+2+3^{[mini 5]}: [+23] NSS.f+1+2

[36] KIN.1+2
[20] BT.3: [+16] BT.d+1

[24] CH BT.d+1
[24] CH KIN.d+1
[21] CH BT.2
[21] CH f+2
[21] CH (ws1),2
[19] CH (df+1),2
[13] KIN.3: [+31] NSS.ub+1+2; [+23] NSS.f+1+2; [+20] 1SS.ub+1+2; [+18] 1SS.f+1+2

[35] 1SS.qcf+1^{[mini 6]}
[22] 1+2,P^{[mini 6]}: [+31] H.ub+1+2; [+23] H.f+1+2; [+20] 1SS.ub+1+2; [+18] 1SS.f+1+2

[30] NSS.qcf+1: [+23] NSS.f+1+2

[32] ws3,2: [+8] d+2

[30] H.KIN.f+2,F: [+24] NSS.ub+1+2; [+18] NSS.f+1+2; [+16] 1SS.ub+1+2; [+14] 1SS.f+1+2

↑ ^1.0 ^1.1 Heat engager
↑ Only off-axis SSL or against Jack-8 and Devil Jin
↑ Only against certain characters
↑ ^4.0 ^4.1 Requires forward dash
↑ Opponent can escape with quick back roll
↑ ^6.0 ^6.1 Delay followups with a forward dash to increase damage dealt

Staples

Staple combos are juggles that:

Can be done consistently by a skilled player
Either work on all body sizes, or the characters it does work on are comprehensively listed
Are not strictly worse than another combo listed in terms of difficulty, damage, wall carry, and oki

[13] df+2: [+59] f,n,d,df+1 df+1 b+2,1,1+2 KIN.b+2,1 T! f,F+1+4*,n^{[s 1]}; [+57] 1+4 d+2,2,B df+1,2,1 T! NSS.1+4 1SS.f+3+4; [+56] 1+4 d+2,2,B 1 NSS.f+3+4 2,2 T! >NSS.f+3+4 NSS.f+1+2^{[s 2]}; [+54] 1+4 d+2,2,B df+1,2,1 T! (b1) 3,2,NSS.1+2^{[s 3]}; [+52] 1+4 d+2,2,B df+1,2,1 T! NSS.1+4 d+2,2,B; [+51] f,n,d,df+1 b+2,1,1+2 KIN.b+2,1 T! d+2,2,2; [+49] dash d+2,>2,B f+1 NSS f+3+4 d+2,>2,>2 T! b+1 NSS.3,1; [+63] 1+4 d2,2 md. d2,2,2 T! KIN.(2),1+2*^{[s 4]}

[27] CH ss4
[27] CH kin.4: [+49] kin.4 kin.b2,1 T! 3~4u dgf.f1+2; [+48] d2,2B df1 d2,2,2 T! ssr NSS.1+4 d2,2

[20] NSS.1+4: [+47] SSL.1 d+2,2,B 1 f+3+4 2,2 T! NSS.f+3+4 NSS.f+1+2^{[s 5]}; [+?] SSL.1 d+2,2,B df+1,2,1 T! NSS.3,1,2

[12] NSS.FC.df3: [+50] uf1+3 1+4 f2,1 3~4u DGF.f1+2; [+46] KIN.4,1+2 KIN.b2,1 d2,2b NSS.f1+2

[12] 1SS.FC.df1: [+46] KIN.4,1+2 KIN.b2,1 d2,2b NSS.f1+2; [+44] ws1,2,1 3~4u DGF.f1+2

[25] 4~3
[25] FLE.3+4: [+54] (3)~4 d2,2b df1,2,1 T! (b1) 3,2,1+2; [+53] 4~3 T! f2,1 3~4u DGF.f1+2^{[s 6]}; [+58] (3)~4u dgf.2 dgf.2 dgf.2,4b T! 1+4 d221^{[s 6]}; [+55] 4~3 T! db1+2,1 f3+4 1 d22 f1+2^{[s 7]}

[20] H.f1+2f
[33] H.b2,2f
[24] H.DGF.4f
[37] H.3,1f: [+48] d2,2b 1+4 md d2,2b 1 f3+4 d2,2,2 T! 3,1^{[s 8]}; [+61] d2,2b d2,2 d2,2 d2,2,2 T! KIN.(2),1+2*^{[s 4]}

↑ Deals 60 self damage 1 frame afterwards
↑ Requires on-axis or SSL. NSS.f+3+4 after tornado must hit meaty
↑ Whiffing b1 instead of dashing after T! spaces correctly so all 3 hits of 3,2,1+2 hit consistently
↑ ^4.0 ^4.1 Last hit guard breaks for a free b+2,2 on standup, or counter-hits wakeup kicks. Hits grounded.
↑ Doesn't work on Alisa, Jack-8, Jun, Kuma/Panda, Lee, Leroy, Victor, Xiaoyu, Yoshimitsu and Zafina
↑ ^6.0 ^6.1 1SS only
↑ NSS only
↑ Doesn't work on bears

Wall

Regular carry (30% scaling): [40] d+2,2,2 T! uf+3+4,1SS.d+1+2 FLE.n FLE.f,f FLE.f,f FLE.f,f^{[wall 1]}; [32] d+2,2,2 T! >NSS.ub+1+2; [27] d+2,2,2 T! b+1,1,1,1,1; [27] HB 4~3 T! 2 3~4,1SS.U DGF.4; [26] 1SS b+2,1,1+2 W! KIN.f+2 3~4,1SS.U DGF.4; [25] NSS.3,2>1+2; [23] 2 3~4,1SS.U DGF.4; [18] b+1,1 NSS.f+1+2; [18] d+2,2>2; [varies] 1SS.F+3+4 W! FLE.f,f

↑ only works on-axisr

Float

[4] 1
[14] 1+4: [+42] d+2,2,B f+1 d+2,2,2 T! SSR NSS.1+4 d+2,2; [+40] d+2,2,B df+1,2,1 T! NSS.1+4 d+2,2

Back-turned opponent

[13] df+2 (NSS)
[51] f,F+3 KIN.b+2,NSS.1: [+55] NSS.1+4 d+2,2,2 T! f,F+1+2 BT.d+1

[13] df+2 (NSS OK)
[32] b+2,1 (NSS OK)
[54] f,F+3 KIN.b+2,1 (NSS OK): [+61] 3,1 DGF.2,4B T! NSS.1+4 HB f,F+1+2 BT.d+1; [+53] 3,1 DGF.2,4 T! f,F+1+2 BT.d+1; [+53] 3,1 DGF.2,4B T! f,F+1+2 BT.df+1+2 ^{[b 1]}

↑ Recovers NSS

Stage hazard

Secluded Training Ground: big boy break all the walls combo here

Extras

Extra combos are juggles that are:

Strictly worse than one of the § Staples; or
Too inconsistent to be a staple; or
Joke combos for style points.

[51] df+2 df+2 df+2 HB df2 d+2,2,2 T! df+2 f,n,d,df+1

[71] uf+3 uf+3 1+4 HB uf+3 H.1+4 d+2,2,2 T! H.1+4 f+1+2,F HD! uf+3

[no-space-1] 1.0 ^1.1 Should never have a space immediately after it.

[2] Not "for stance transition", which has no special notation and is written the same as any other input.

[3] Not Heat Available, which is not notated, since the only move done from that is Heat Burst, which is simply written 2+3.

[heat-4] 1.0 ^1.1 Heat engager

[5] Only off-axis SSL or against Jack-8 and Devil Jin

[charspecific-6] Only against certain characters

[dash-7] 4.0 ^4.1 Requires forward dash

[8] Opponent can escape with quick back roll

[delay-9] 6.0 ^6.1 Delay followups with a forward dash to increase damage dealt

[10] Deals 60 self damage 1 frame afterwards

[11] Requires on-axis or SSL. NSS.f+3+4 after tornado must hit meaty

[12] Whiffing b1 instead of dashing after T! spaces correctly so all 3 hits of 3,2,1+2 hit consistently

[gb_setup-13] 4.0 ^4.1 Last hit guard breaks for a free b+2,2 on standup, or counter-hits wakeup kicks. Hits grounded.

[14] Doesn't work on Alisa, Jack-8, Jun, Kuma/Panda, Lee, Leroy, Victor, Xiaoyu, Yoshimitsu and Zafina

[1ss-15] 6.0 ^6.1 1SS only

[NSS-16] NSS only

[17] Doesn't work on bears

[18] y works on-axisr

[19] Recovers NSS

[1]

[2]

[3]

[mini 1]

[mini 2]

[mini 3]

[mini 4]

[mini 5]

[mini 6]

[s 1]

[s 2]

[s 3]

[s 4]

[s 5]

[s 6]

[s 7]

[s 8]

[wall 1]

[b 1]

@@ Line 14: / Line 14: @@
 : d+2,2,B df+1 d+2,2,2 T! 3,2,NSS.1+2
-; Instant Tornado (e.g. dgf.2,4)
+; Instant Tornado (e.g. low parry)
-: (1ss) f2,1 3~4u DGF.f1+2
+: d22b 1 f3+4 d22 f1+2
-: (NSS) f3+4 1+4 3~4u DGF.f1+2
 }}
@@ Line 23: / Line 22: @@
 {{Combolist|columns=11em|
 <!-- see https://wavu.wiki/t/Template:Combolist for usage -->
-; [21] 1+4
+; [20] 1+4
-; [0 (14)] blocked NSS KIN.2,1+2*
+; [12] blocked NSS.KIN.2,1+2*
 ; [0] CH 1SS.1+2+3
 : [+22] b+2,2 <ref group="mini" name="heat">Heat engager</ref>
@@ Line 30: / Line 29: @@
 ; [7] b+1
-<!-- improve this ref with some character examples -->
+: [+21] 1SS.1+4 <ref group="mini">Only off-axis SSL or against Jack-8 and Devil Jin</ref>
-: [+21] 1SS.1+4 <ref group="mini" name="charspecific"> Only off-axis SSL or against certain characters </ref>
-; [12] CH 2 <ref group="mini" name="charspecific"/>
+; [12] CH 2 <ref group="mini" name="charspecific">Only against certain characters</ref> <!-- improve this ref with some character examples -->
 ; [9] CH b+1
 : [+24] NSS.1+4 <!-- insert a ref to NSS.1+4 combos -->
@@ Line 43: / Line 41: @@
 ; [22] CH (1),1SS.1
 : [+18] 1SS.f+1+2
+: [+17] 1SS.f,n,d,df+1
 ; [30] NSS.2,1 <ref group="mini" name="dash">Requires forward dash</ref>
@@ Line 58: / Line 57: @@
 ; [21] CH f+2
 ; [21] CH (ws1),2
-; [19] CH (df1),2
+; [19] CH (df+1),2
 ; [13] KIN.3
 : [+31] NSS.ub+1+2
@@ Line 76: / Line 75: @@
 ; [32] ws3,2
-: [+8] d2
+: [+8] d+2
-; [25] H.KIN.f+2f
+; [30] H.KIN.f+2,F
-: [+16] 1SS.ub1+2
+: [+24] NSS.ub+1+2
-: [+24] NSS.ub1+2
+: [+18] NSS.f+1+2
+: [+16] 1SS.ub+1+2
+: [+14] 1SS.f+1+2
 }}
@@ Line 95: / Line 96: @@
 : [+56] 1+4 d+2,2,B 1 NSS.f+3+4 2,2 T! >NSS.f+3+4 NSS.f+1+2<ref group="s">Requires on-axis or SSL. NSS.f+3+4 after tornado must hit meaty</ref>
 : [+54] 1+4 d+2,2,B df+1,2,1 T! (b1) 3,2,NSS.1+2<ref group="s">Whiffing b1 instead of dashing after T! spaces correctly so all 3 hits of 3,2,1+2 hit consistently</ref>
 : [+52] 1+4 d+2,2,B df+1,2,1 T! NSS.1+4 d+2,2,B
 : [+51] f,n,d,df+1 b+2,1,1+2 KIN.b+2,1 T! d+2,2,2
+: [+49] dash d+2,>2,B f+1 NSS f+3+4 d+2,>2,>2 T! b+1 NSS.3,1
+: [+63] 1+4 d2,2 md. d2,2,2 T! KIN.(2),1+2*<ref group="s"name="gb setup">Last hit guard breaks for a free b+2,2 on standup, or counter-hits wakeup kicks. Hits grounded.</ref>
 ; [27] CH ss4
@@ Line 104: / Line 107: @@
 ; [20] NSS.1+4
-: [+47] SSL.1 d+2,2,B 1 f+3+4 2,2 T! NSS.f+3+4 NSS.f+1+2
+: [+47] SSL.1 d+2,2,B 1 f+3+4 2,2 T! NSS.f+3+4 NSS.f+1+2<ref group="s">Doesn't work on Alisa, Jack-8, Jun, Kuma/Panda, Lee, Leroy, Victor, Xiaoyu, Yoshimitsu and Zafina</ref>
+: [+?] SSL.1 d+2,2,B df+1,2,1 T! NSS.3,1,2
 ; [12] NSS.FC.df3
@@ Line 120: / Line 125: @@
 : [+58] (3)~4u dgf.2 dgf.2 dgf.2,4b T! 1+4 d221<ref group="s" name="1ss">1SS only</ref>
 : [+55] 4~3 T! db1+2,1 f3+4 1 d22 f1+2<ref group="s" name="NSS">NSS only</ref>
+; [20] H.f1+2f
+; [33] H.b2,2f
+; [24] H.DGF.4f
+; [37] H.3,1f
+: [+48] d2,2b 1+4 md d2,2b 1 f3+4 d2,2,2 T! 3,1<ref group="s">Doesn't work on bears</ref>
+: [+61] d2,2b d2,2 d2,2 d2,2,2 T! KIN.(2),1+2*<ref group="s"name="gb setup"/>
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