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Bread n' butter

Bread n' butter combos are juggles that:

Work on as many different launchers as possible
Work on all body sizes

Launchers that require unique combos go straight to § Staples.

One hit launcher (e.g. uf+4): f+3,F~2 1 b,f+2,1,4 S! f+3,F~3+4

Two hit launcher (e.g. f+3,F~2): df+1 b,f+2,1,4 S! f+3,F~3+4

Crouching recovery (e.g. CH FUFT.3): ws4,4 S! df+1 df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2

Mini-combos

[29] 3,2
[24] CH db+1+2: [+21] 1+4^{[m 1]}; [+18] OG.d+2

[30] wr1
[24] CH RSS.1+2: [+20] wr2; [+15] f,F+4^{[m 2]}; [+13] f,F+2^{[m 2]}; [+8] 2+3

CH RSS.3: [40] OG.d+2

f+2^{[m 3]}: [57] f+3+4 RSS.3 OG.d+2; [41] OG.d+2

↑ This is -30a (-40a) and at the wall can be punished
↑ ^2.0 ^2.1 Whiffs against some characters after wr1
↑ If opponent doesn't do a tech recovery

Staples

Staple combos are juggles that:

Can be done consistently by a skilled player
Either work on all body sizes, or the characters it does work on are comprehensively listed
Are not strictly worse than another combo listed in terms of difficulty, damage, wall carry, and oki

CH 4: [59] b+2^{[s 1]} S! uf,n,4 df+1 df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2; [58] b+2^{[s 1]} S! ssr^{[s 2]} f+3+4~2 f+3 df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2; [55] b+2^{[s 1]} S! f+3+4~4 df+1 df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2; [54] b+2^{[s 1]} S! f+3+4~3+4 df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2; [51] b+2^{[s 1]} S! f+3+4~3+4 df+1 f+3,F~3+4; [37] df+3,(1),2,3,2,1; [29] f,F+2

[13] uf+4
[20] ws2
[20] RSS.2
[21] f,F+4
[25] uf,n,4: [+48] f+3,F~2 df+1 b,f+2,1,4 S! b,f+2,1,1+2; [+45] f+3,F~2 2 b,f+2,1,4^{[s 3]} S! f+3,F~3+4; [+45] f+3,F~2 b,f+2,1,4^{[s 4]} S! b,f+2,1,1+2; [+42] f+3,F~2 b,f+2,1,4^{[s 4]} S! f+3,F~3+4; [+42] f+3,F~3+4 b,f+2,1,4^{[s 3]} S! f+3,F~3+4

[13] uf+4
[20] RSS.2
[21] f,F+4
[25] uf,n,4
[37] R.f,F+1+2 f,f^{[s 5]}: [+47] f+4 S! uf,n,4 df+1 df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2; [+46] f+4 S! ssr^{[s 2]} f+3+4~2 f+3 df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2; [+43] f+4 S! f+3+4~4 df+1 df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2; [+42] f+4 S! f+3+4~3+4 df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2; [+39] f+4 S! f+3+4~3+4 df+1 f+3,F~3+4

[21] f,F+4: [+53] f+3+4~2 f+3,F~2 b,f+2,1,4^{[s 3]}^{[s 6]} S! b,f+2,1,1+2; [+50] f+3+4~2 f+3,F~2 b,f+2,1,4^{[s 3]}^{[s 6]} S! f+3,F~3+4; [+49] f+3+4~2 f+3 df+1 b,f+2,1,4 S! b,f+2,1,1+2; [+46] f+3+4~2 f+3 df+1 b,f+2,1,4 S! f+3+4~4,2

[20] RSS.2
[25] uf,n,4: [+47] df+2 b,f+2,1,4^{[s 7]} S! b,f+2,1,1+2; [+47] df+2 b,f+2,1,4^{[s 7]} S! f+3,F~4,2; [+44] df+2 b,f+2,1,4^{[s 7]} S! f+3,F~3+4

[29] df+2
[27] f+3,F~2
[21] RSS.3+4: [+32] 3,1^{[s 8]} S! df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2; [+31] df+1 b,f+2,1,4 S! b,f+2,1,1+2; [+31] df+1 b,f+2,1,4 S! f+3,F~4,2; [+28] f+3,F~3+4 b+2^{[s 3]} S! f+3,F~3+4

uf+3,4,3: [59] f+3+4~4 df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2; [58] f+3+4~3+4 b,f+2,1,1+2^{[s 3]}

R.f,F+1+2: [79] uf+3,4,3 S! uf+3,4,1^{[s 9]}

↑ ^1.0 ^1.1 ^1.2 ^1.3 ^1.4 Will usually whiff vs Kuma/Panda.
↑ ^2.0 ^2.1 The f+3 df+1 link requires a precise angle vs smaller bodies.
↑ ^3.0 ^3.1 ^3.2 ^3.3 ^3.4 ^3.5 Doesn't work vs Kuma/Panda.
↑ ^4.0 ^4.1 Doesn't work after f,F+4 unless f+3,F is delayed significantly vs Eliza, Lucky Chloe, Kuma/Panda, Kunimitsu, and Xiaoyu.
↑ Getting f+4 and not f,F+4 is as simple as pressing f three times. The only way to mess this up is being too hasty and pressing the second f in the input buffer. There's no rush.
↑ ^6.0 ^6.1 Only works vs Katarina, Leo, Lidia, Lili, Nina, Master Raven and males except Akuma, Lee, Lei, Leroy, and Yoshimitsu.
↑ ^7.0 ^7.1 ^7.2 Doesn't work vs Kuma/Panda after uf,n,4. Can replace df+2 with b+1,2 to make it work, but this still doesn't work at tip range or when slightly off-axis.
↑ Doesn't work vs Kuma/Panda after f+3,F~2.
↑ Easy mode option with no possible wall combo.

Wall

Regular carry (30% scaling): [+31]^{[w 1]} 1 R.f,F+1+2 4 1+2; [+26] f+3+4~3 OG.d+2; [+21] f+3,F~2 1+2^{[w 2]}; [+19] 2,1 1+2^{[w 2]}; [+18] 1 df+1 1+2; [+18] b,f+2,1,1+2^{[w 3]}; [+18]^{[w 4]} 1 1 1+2^{[w 5]}; [+12] wr2

df+1,2
ws1,2
3,1
f+2
wr1
wr2
CH 4: [+30] f+3,F~2 1+2^{[w 2]}; [+28] b,b 4 W! df+1 1+2; [+24] 2,1 1+2^{[w 2]}; [+22] 1 df+1 1+2; [+21] 1 1 1+2^{[w 5]}

uf+4 W!
f+3+4~2 W!: [+44] f+4 R.f,F+1+2 4 1+2; [+43] f+4 R.f,F+1+2 1 1+2^{[w 5]}

↑ With the damage bonus from rage, this is only 2 more damage than the spike combo. When that's an option, spending the rage is hardly worth it since you can get 5 chip damage with it at the wall.
↑ ^2.0 ^2.1 ^2.2 ^2.3 f+3,F~2 1+2 only works against males (plus Master Raven, minus Noctis and Leroy), and 2,1 1+2 is inconsistent. See below for more details.
↑ Often doesn't work and nobody knows why.
↑ Yes, against bears this does the same damage as 1 df+1 1+2 does normally, even though df+1 does more damage. This is not a mistake. The 1+2 does more damage against bears for some reason.
↑ ^5.0 ^5.1 ^5.2 Necessary vs Kuma/Panda. All other tiger combos whiff.

For f+3,F~2 1+2, it's inconsistent vs Akuma, Lee, Lei, Master Raven, and Yoshimitsu. It can work but only at a specific angle vs Leo, Leroy, Lidia, Lili, and Noctis.

For 2,1 1+2, it's inconsistent but can work vs everyone–except Kuma/Panda. It only works at a specific angle vs Alisa, Asuka, Julia, Nina, and Zafina. It hardly works at all against Eliza, Kunimitsu, Lucky Chloe, and Xiaoyu.

In both cases, Dragon's Nest can cause everything to drop anyway because dragons hate tigers or something.

The good angle is with the opponent's left being closer to the wall than their right. For the combos vs characters that don't require a specific angle, either this or dead center should work fine. But the 2,1 route can also drop from the good side if the angle is a little too funky.

Yes, there are almost more exceptions than rules here. All this mess should fill you with despair. Fortunately, there are usually better combos you can go for—FLY.3 spike from carry and «b,b 4 df+1 1+2» from splats.

Float

[4] 1
[4] (1),1
[5] (1),2
[7] df+1
[7] 2
[7] (2),1
[10] 4: [+37] f+4 S! uf,n,4 df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2; [+35] uf+4 df+1 S! b,f+2,1,1+2; [+34] f+4 S! uf,n,4 df+1 f+3+4,F~3+4; [+32] f+4 S! f+3+4,F~3+4 b,f+2,1,1+2; [+32] b,f+2,1,4 S! df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2; [+32] 3,1 S! df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2; [+31] f+3,F~3+4 b+2 S! b,f+2,1,1+2
: combo when you anti-air with jab here

Extras

Extra combos are juggles that are:

Strictly worse than one of the § Staples; or
Too inconsistent to be a staple; or
Joke combos for style points.

External links

Kazumi Mishima Combo Guide (Season 4) by Ryzing Sol

[1] This is -30a (-40a) and at the wall can be punished

[not-all-bodies-2] 2.0 ^2.1 Whiffs against some characters after wr1

[3] If opponent doesn't do a tech recovery

[no-bears-b2-4] 1.0 ^1.1 ^1.2 ^1.3 ^1.4 Will usually whiff vs Kuma/Panda.

[f3-df1-5] 2.0 ^2.1 The f+3 df+1 link requires a precise angle vs smaller bodies.

[no-bears-6] 3.0 ^3.1 ^3.2 ^3.3 ^3.4 ^3.5 Doesn't work vs Kuma/Panda.

[ff4-delay-f3-7] 4.0 ^4.1 Doesn't work after f,F+4 unless f+3,F is delayed significantly vs Eliza, Lucky Chloe, Kuma/Panda, Kunimitsu, and Xiaoyu.

[8] Getting f+4 and not f,F+4 is as simple as pressing f three times. The only way to mess this up is being too hasty and pressing the second f in the input buffer. There's no rush.

[male-only-9] 6.0 ^6.1 Only works vs Katarina, Leo, Lidia, Lili, Nina, Master Raven and males except Akuma, Lee, Lei, Leroy, and Yoshimitsu.

[b12-df2-10] 7.0 ^7.1 ^7.2 Doesn't work vs Kuma/Panda after uf,n,4. Can replace df+2 with b+1,2 to make it work, but this still doesn't work at tip range or when slightly off-axis.

[11] Doesn't work vs Kuma/Panda after f+3,F~2.

[12] Easy mode option with no possible wall combo.

[13] With the damage bonus from rage, this is only 2 more damage than the spike combo. When that's an option, spending the rage is hardly worth it since you can get 5 chip damage with it at the wall.

[1+2-sus-14] 2.0 ^2.1 ^2.2 ^2.3 f+3,F~2 1+2 only works against males (plus Master Raven, minus Noctis and Leroy), and 2,1 1+2 is inconsistent. See below for more details.

[15] Often doesn't work and nobody knows why.

[16] Yes, against bears this does the same damage as 1 df+1 1+2 does normally, even though df+1 does more damage. This is not a mistake. The 1+2 does more damage against bears for some reason.

[bears-only-17] 5.0 ^5.1 ^5.2 Necessary vs Kuma/Panda. All other tiger combos whiff.

[m 1]

[m 2]

[m 3]

[s 1]

[s 2]

[s 3]

[s 4]

[s 5]

[s 6]

[s 7]

[s 8]

[s 9]

[w 1]

[w 2]

[w 3]

[w 4]

[w 5]

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 Yes, there are almost more exceptions than rules here. All this mess should fill you with despair. Fortunately, there are usually better combos you can go for—FLY.3 spike from carry and «b,b 4 df+1 1+2» from splats.
+== Float ==
+{{Combolist|
+; [4] 1
+; [4] (1),1
+; [5] (1),2
+; [7] df+1
+; [7] 2
+; [7] (2),1
+; [10] 4
+: [+37] f+4 S! uf,n,4 df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2
+: [+35] uf+4 df+1 S! b,f+2,1,1+2
+: [+34] f+4 S! uf,n,4 df+1 f+3+4,F~3+4
+: [+32] f+4 S! f+3+4,F~3+4 b,f+2,1,1+2
+: [+32] b,f+2,1,4 S! df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2
+: [+32] 3,1 S! df+1 b,f+2,1,1+2
+: [+31] f+3,F~3+4 b+2 S! b,f+2,1,1+2
+;
+: combo when you anti-air with jab here
+}}
 == Extras ==