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; Instant Tornado (e.g., low parry)
; Instant Tornado (e.g., low parry)
: T!
: T! df+4~3, f,f+2~2, blossom
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; [24] CH f,F+2
; [22] H.f,F+2
; [22] H.f,F+2
: [+19] HRS.2
: [+19] HRS.2<ref name="he">Heat Engager</ref>
: [+15] HRS.1


; [31] CH.CAT.1
; [31] CH CAT.1
: [??] ?
: [??] ?


; [14] CH d+2
; [14] CH d+2
: [+15] FC.df+2<ref name="he">Heat Engager</ref>
: [+15] FC.df+2<ref name="he" />
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; [20] CH.df+2
: [+20] CAT.3<ref name="he" />


; [20] FC.df+3 (clean)
; [20] FC.df+3 (clean)
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; [32] df+4,2
; [32] df+4,2
: [+19] OTG.d+2
: [+19] OTG.d+1+2
: [+16] f,F+3
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; [20] ws3
; [20] (df+3),4
: [+20] f,F+1+2
: [+19] f,f,F+2
: [+16] f,F+3
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; [27] df+4~4
: [+19] OTG.d+1+2
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; [20] HRS.4
: [+19] OTG.d+1+2<ref>hold B to exit stance, then OTG.d+1+2, will CH all wake-up attacks</ref>
: [+16] WLF.2


; [38] H.f+1+2,3,1+2,F
; [20] ws3
; [20] ws3
: [??] f,F+1+2
: [+20] f,F+1+2
: [+19] OTG.d+2
: [+19] OTG.d+1+2
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{{Staple}}
{{Staple}}
[[Lidia]]'s main two enders have verbose inputs so they are often shortened for brevity:
* blossom โ†’ d,df,f,d,df,f+2,2,b,f,F+1+2ย 
* bab โ†’ b+3,4,d,df,f+1+2
Any combo where a blossom ender is possible after a [[tornado]], a bab ender is also possible. The bab ender is easier and does 5 damage less. For these combos, the bab ender combo is not listed and instead implied. Both enders have simpler input options (b+3,4,1+2 for bab; qcf+2,2,1+2 for blossom) that do less damage.
Lidia can also do the ender df+4~3 f,F+4,3 wherever she can do blossom post-T!. This increases in damage with higher Heaven and Earth levels adding 3 dmg per additional level. This ender overtakes blossom in damage after 1 stack.


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; [30] 1+2**
; [30] 1+2**
; [24] df+4~3
; [24] df+4~3
; [??] 3<nowiki>:</nowiki>2
; [21] HAE.1
; [21] 3<nowiki>:</nowiki>2
; [20] CH (df+1),3
; [19] 3,2
; [19] 3,2
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; [16] CH (b+2),3
: [+63] f+3+4~F~2 f,F+2~2 qcf+1+2,2 T! blossom<ref name="qcf+1+2,2">Hold B after qcf+1+2,2 to exit stance quickly</ref>
: [+60] f,f,F+2~2 db+2 df+4,2 T! blossom<ref name="wr2">can replace f,f,F+2 with f,F+2 for 2 less dmg</ref>
: [+59] f+3+4~F~2 b+2,3 qcf+1+2,2~B T! blossom<ref name="b2,3">b+2<nowiki>:</nowiki>3 adds 1 dmg</ref>
: [+54] df+2~4~2 df+4,2 T! blossom


; [26] uf+4
; [26] uf+4
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: [+27] T! ~f WLF.2,1 dash 1, b3,4,qcf1+2
: [+38] T! ~b f,f,f+2~2<ref name="wr2" />, blossom
; [24] CH ws3
; [0] low parry
: [+38] f,f,F+2~2 blossom<ref name="wr2" />
: [+34] CAT.F~2 df+1 blossom
: [+54] d,f+4~3, f,f,f+2~2 blossom<ref name="wr2" />


; [27] CH (f+4,3),4
; [21] f,F+3
; [20] uf,n,4
; [20] CH HRS.1+2
; [20] CH HRS.1+2
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; [15] ws2
; [21] f,F+3
: [+58] f,f,F+2~2 db+2 df+4,2 T! blossom<ref name="wr2" />
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: [+52] df+2~4~2 df+4,2 T! blossom


; [24] H.b+1,F
; [24] H.b+1,F
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; [20] H.CAT.3,F
; [18] H.HRS.2,F
: [+48] f,f,F+2~2 db+2 df+2~4~2 qcf+1+2,2 T! blossom<ref name="qcf+1+2,2" />


; [20] uf,n,4
; [26] CH (qcf+1+2),2
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; [24] CH HRS.4
; [12] CH CAT.4
: [+61] WLF.2 f,F+2~2 qcf+1+2,2 T! blossom<ref name="qcf+1+2,2" />
: [+57] WLF.2 b+2,3 qcf+1+2,2 T! blossom<ref name="b2,3" /><ref name="qcf+1+2,2" />
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; [15] ws2
<references />
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; [21] HAE.1
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== Wall ==
== Wall ==
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; No tornado available
; No tornado available
:
: [+??] blossom
: [+??] f+1+2,3,qcf+1+2
: [+??] bab


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== External Links ==
== External Links ==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um3TuihmsZY Lidia Sobieska Combo Guide | TEKKEN 8] by RyzingSol
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZXuz6WVCC8 Lidia Sobieska Character Guide, part 2 - Combos] by mastermind6000

Latest revision as of 18:07, 29 September 2024

Notation summary for combos
Symbol Meaning
1 Left Punch
2 Right Punch
3 Left kick
4 Right kick
u Up
d Down
f Forward
b Backward
uf Up and forward
df Down and forward
ub Up and backward
db Down and backward
n Neutral
Symbol Meaning
U Up (Hold)
D Down (Hold)
F Forward (Hold)
B Backward (Hold)
UF Up and forward (Hold)
DF Down and forward (Hold)
UB Up and backward (Hold)
DB Down and backward (Hold)
Symbol Meaning
+ Pressed together
# Pressed together, on the same frame
,[1] Followed by
~ Followed by, immediately
: Followed by, tight input window
< Followed by, with delayed input
>
* Held input
Symbol Meaning
.[1] From stance
~ From stance transition[2]
H During Heat[3]
R Rage
FC Full crouch
hFC Half crouch
ws While standing
wr While running
Symbol Meaning
T! Tornado
W! Wall splat
WB! Wall break
F! Floor break
BB! Balcony break
Symbol Meaning Example Example Meaning
CH Counter hit CH 1,2,3 1,2,3 where the first hit is a counter hit
CL Clean hit CL db+4 db+4 with a clean hit
(?) Whiffed or blocked moves CH (1,2),3 1,2,3 where the third hit is a counter hit
(2,2),2 2,2,2 where the first two hits whiff
(x?) Repeat string ? times b+2,f~n(x3) b+2,f~n repeated 3 times
[?; ?] Damage dealt; recoverable damage [50; 12] ws2,3 f,F+3 Combo deals 50 damage, 12 of which is recoverable
  1. โ†‘ 1.0 1.1 Should never have a space immediately after it.
  2. โ†‘ Not "for stance transition", which has no special notation and is written the same as any other input.
  3. โ†‘ Not Heat Available, which is not notated, since the only move done from that is Heat Burst, which is simply written 2+3.

This page is for Tekken 8. For Tekken 7, see Lidia combos (Tekken 7).

Bread n' Butter

Bread n' butter combos are juggles that:

  • Work on as many different launchers as possible
  • Work on all body sizes

Launchers that require unique combos go straight to ยง Staples.

Regular launch (e.g. df+2)
Instant Tornado (e.g., low parry)
T! df+4~3, f,f+2~2, blossom


Mini-combos

[24] CH f,F+2
[22] H.f,F+2
[+19] HRS.2[1]
[+15] HRS.1
[31] CH CAT.1
[??] ?
[14] CH d+2
[+15] FC.df+2[1]
[20] CH.df+2
[+20] CAT.3[1]
[20] FC.df+3 (clean)
[+16] f,F+3
[27] qcf+4
[+15] 1,2,2
[32] df+4,2
[+19] OTG.d+1+2
[+16] f,F+3
[20] ws3
[20] (df+3),4
[+20] f,F+1+2
[+19] f,f,F+2
[+16] f,F+3
[27] df+4~4
[+19] OTG.d+1+2
[20] HRS.4
[+19] OTG.d+1+2[2]
[+16] WLF.2
[38] H.f+1+2,3,1+2,F
[20] ws3
[+20] f,F+1+2
[+19] OTG.d+1+2
  1. โ†‘ 1.0 1.1 1.2 Heat Engager
  2. โ†‘ hold B to exit stance, then OTG.d+1+2, will CH all wake-up attacks

Staples

Staple combos are juggles that:

  • Can be done consistently by a skilled player
  • Either work on all body sizes, or the characters it does work on are comprehensively listed
  • Are not strictly worse than another combo listed in terms of difficulty, damage, wall carry, and oki

Lidia's main two enders have verbose inputs so they are often shortened for brevity:

  • blossom โ†’ d,df,f,d,df,f+2,2,b,f,F+1+2
  • bab โ†’ b+3,4,d,df,f+1+2

Any combo where a blossom ender is possible after a tornado, a bab ender is also possible. The bab ender is easier and does 5 damage less. For these combos, the bab ender combo is not listed and instead implied. Both enders have simpler input options (b+3,4,1+2 for bab; qcf+2,2,1+2 for blossom) that do less damage.

Lidia can also do the ender df+4~3 f,F+4,3 wherever she can do blossom post-T!. This increases in damage with higher Heaven and Earth levels adding 3 dmg per additional level. This ender overtakes blossom in damage after 1 stack.

[34] WLF.1*
[30] 1+2**
[24] df+4~3
[21] HAE.1
[21] 3:2
[20] CH (df+1),3
[19] 3,2
[16] CH (b+2),3
[+63] f+3+4~F~2 f,F+2~2 qcf+1+2,2 T! blossom[1]
[+60] f,f,F+2~2 db+2 df+4,2 T! blossom[2]
[+59] f+3+4~F~2 b+2,3 qcf+1+2,2~B T! blossom[3]
[+54] df+2~4~2 df+4,2 T! blossom
[26] uf+4
[+27] T! ~f WLF.2,1 dash 1, b3,4,qcf1+2
[+38] T! ~b f,f,f+2~2[2], blossom
[24] CH ws3
[0] low parry
[+38] f,f,F+2~2 blossom[2]
[+34] CAT.F~2 df+1 blossom
[+54] d,f+4~3, f,f,f+2~2 blossom[2]
[27] CH (f+4,3),4
[21] f,F+3
[20] uf,n,4
[20] CH HRS.1+2
[15] ws2
[+58] f,f,F+2~2 db+2 df+4,2 T! blossom[2]
[+52] df+2~4~2 df+4,2 T! blossom
[24] H.b+1,F
[20] H.CAT.3,F
[18] H.HRS.2,F
[+48] f,f,F+2~2 db+2 df+2~4~2 qcf+1+2,2 T! blossom[1]
[26] CH (qcf+1+2),2
[24] CH HRS.4
[12] CH CAT.4
[+61] WLF.2 f,F+2~2 qcf+1+2,2 T! blossom[1]
[+57] WLF.2 b+2,3 qcf+1+2,2 T! blossom[3][1]
  1. โ†‘ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Hold B after qcf+1+2,2 to exit stance quickly
  2. โ†‘ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 can replace f,f,F+2 with f,F+2 for 2 less dmg
  3. โ†‘ 3.0 3.1 b+2:3 adds 1 dmg

Wall

Note: Damage values assume that the scaling on the first wall hit begins at 56%.


Tornado available
No tornado available
[+??] blossom
[+??] f+1+2,3,qcf+1+2
[+??] bab


Off-Axis


Stage Hazard

Wall Blast


Wall Hazard


Note: Wall Hazard (WH!) includes Balcony Break (BB!), Wall Break (WB!), Hard Wall Break (HWB!) and Wall Bound (WB!)

Extras

Extra combos are juggles that are:

  • Strictly worse than one of the ยง Staples; or
  • Too inconsistent to be a staple; or
  • Joke combos for style points.

External Links