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Notation summary for combos

Symbol	Meaning
1	Left Punch
2	Right Punch
3	Left kick
4	Right kick
u	Up
d	Down
f	Forward
b	Backward
uf	Up and forward
df	Down and forward
ub	Up and backward
db	Down and backward
n	Neutral

Symbol	Meaning
U	Up (Hold)
D	Down (Hold)
F	Forward (Hold)
B	Backward (Hold)
UF	Up and forward (Hold)
DF	Down and forward (Hold)
UB	Up and backward (Hold)
DB	Down and backward (Hold)

Symbol	Meaning
+	Pressed together
#	Pressed together, on the same frame
,^[1]	Followed by
~	Followed by, immediately
:	Followed by, tight input window
<	Followed by, with delayed input
>	Followed by, with delayed input
*	Held input

Symbol	Meaning
.^[1]	From stance
~	From stance transition^[2]
H	During Heat^[3]
R	Rage
FC	Full crouch
hFC	Half crouch
ws	While standing
wr	While running

Symbol	Meaning
T!	Tornado
W!	Wall splat
WB!	Wall break
F!	Floor break
BB!	Balcony break

Symbol	Meaning	Example	Example Meaning
CH	Counter hit	CH 1,2,3	1,2,3 where the first hit is a counter hit
CL	Clean hit	CL db+4	db+4 with a clean hit
(?)	Whiffed or blocked moves	CH (1,2),3	1,2,3 where the third hit is a counter hit
(?)	Whiffed or blocked moves	(2,2),2	2,2,2 where the first two hits whiff
(x?)	Repeat string ? times	b+2,f~n(x3)	b+2,f~n repeated 3 times
[?; ?]	Damage dealt; recoverable damage	[50; 12] ws2,3 f,F+3	Combo deals 50 damage, 12 of which is recoverable

↑ ^1.0 ^1.1 Should never have a space immediately after it.
↑ Not "for stance transition", which has no special notation and is written the same as any other input.
↑ Not Heat Available, which is not notated, since the only move done from that is Heat Burst, which is simply written 2+3.

Bread n' butter

Bread n' butter combos are juggles that:

Work on as many different launchers as possible
Work on all body sizes

Launchers that require unique combos go straight to § Staples.

Regular launch example: [62] df+2 > 3,2 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2

Low launch example: [67] ff+4 > ws4 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2

Mini-combos

ss+1: [57] CL qcf+2^[1]; [45] qcf+2

b,n,f+1: [59] CL qcf+2; [46] qcf+2

qcf3+4: [58] CL qcf+2; [46] qcf+2

CH ss+3: [50] d1+2

CH db+1+2: [57] CL qcf+2^[2]; [45] qcf+2

CH qcf+3: [51] d+4,2:1+2; [49] d+4,2,1+2; [46] OTG.d+2 (Floor Blast); [36] OTG.d+2 (Floor Break)

CH df+4: [47] f+2; [42] b+1,2; [41] d1+2

CH (ws1),2~b: [47] f+2; [42] b+1,2; [41] d1+2; [38] qcb+2; [34] qcb+4

H.f+4~F: [37] db+2; [37] OTG.d+2

↑ Approach for clean hit with extended QCF or microdash
↑ Approach for clean hit with microdash only

Staples

Staple combos are juggles that:

Can be done consistently by a skilled player
Either work on all body sizes, or the characters it does work on are comprehensively listed
Are not strictly worse than another combo listed in terms of difficulty, damage, wall carry, and oki

df+2: [75] qcf+1^[1] > df+4 > ws3 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > dash > 2 > fff+2 ^[2]; [72] qcf+1 > df+4 > ws3 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2; [70] qcf+1 > df+4 > 2 > dash > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2; [67] 4 > df+4 > 2 > dash > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2; [65] 4 > df+4 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > d+4,2:1+2 ^[3]; [62] 4 > df+4 > 2 > dash > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > ff+2:1^[4]

qcf+1: [83] qcf+1 > df+4 > ws3 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > dash > 2 > fff+2; [80] qcf+1 > df+4 > ws3 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2; [78] qcf+1 > df+4 > 2 > dash > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2; [75] qcf+1 > df+4 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2

qcb+1+2: [84] qcf+1 > df+4 > ws3 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > dash > 2 > fff+2; [79] qcf+1 > df+4 > 2 > dash > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2; [78] df4 > 4 > df4 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2

b+3: [76] SSL > ws4 > df+4 > ws3 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > dash > 2 > fff+2; [71] df+4 > 3 > df+4 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2; [71] ws4 > df+4 > 2 > dash > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2; [68] 3,2 > 2 > dash > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2

ff+(2),2: [81] SSL > ws4 > df+4 > ws3 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > dash > 2 > fff+2; [79] ws4 > df+4 > 2 > dash > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > dash > 2 > fff+2; [70] 3 > df+4 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2

ff+4: [78] ws4 > df+4 > 2 > dash > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > dash > 2 > fff+2

ws2: [80] ws4 > df+4 > ws3 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > 2 > fff+2; [78] ws4 > df+4 > 2 > dash > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > 2 > fff+2; [72] 3,2 > 2 > dash > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2

qcf1+2: [69] dash > qcf+1 (2)^[5] > df+4 > 2 > fff+2; [69] SSR > qcf+1 (3) > dash > d+4,2:1+2; [63] qcf+1 > df+4 > 2 > dash > d+4,2:1+2; [62] qcf+1 > df+4 > 2 > fff+2

uf+3,4: [71] df+4 > 2 > dash > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > dash > 2 > fff+2; [70] df+4 > qcb+3,2,1 T! > dash > 2 > fff+2; [65] df+4 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2

[15] uf+3
[13] uf+4: [+53] 2 > df+4 > 2 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > dash > 2 > fff+2

CH ws(3),2: [84] qcf+1 (2)^[5] > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > dash > 2 > fff+2; [82] qcf+1 > df+4 > qcb+3,2,1 T! > dash > d+4,2:1+2; [79] qcf+1 > df+4 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2; [71] df+4 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2

CH qcf3+4: [75] qcf+1 (3) > dash > d+4,2:1+2; [70] qcf+1 (2)^[5] > df+4 > 2 > fff+2; [69] qcf+1 > df+4 > 2 > dash > d+4,2:1+2; [68] qcf+1 > df+4 > 2 > fff+2

CH qcb+4: [86] qcf+1 > df+4 > ws3 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > dash > 2 > fff+2; [84] qcf+1 > df+4 > 2 > dash > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > dash > 2 > fff+2; [73] 3 > df+4 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > dash > fff+2

[21] CH db+2
[17] CH df+(3),4
[17] CH (3),2: [+58] 4 > df+4 > 2 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2 T! > 2 > fff+2

Low Parry: [49] SSR > qcf+1 (3) > dash > d+4,2:1+2; [47] SSR > qcf+1 > ws4 > df4 > 1 > dash > d+4,2:1+2; [46] SSR > qcf+1 > ws4 > df4 > 1 > fff+2; [45] qcf+1 > 4 > df4 > 1 > fff+2; [43] qcf+1 > df4 > 2 > dash > d+4,2:1+2; [42] qcf+1 > df4 > 2 > fff+2; [39] df+4 > 3,2 > 3,2~b > SWA.1+2

↑ qcf+1 after high launch offers better damage and wall carry than 4, but is slightly more difficult to execute
↑ 2 > fff+2 can be used in place of most fff+2 enders for an additional 2-3 damage, but is much more difficult to execute
↑ Demoman can be used in place of most fff+2 enders for additional wall carry, but it deals less damage at high scaling, leads to inferior okizeme, and requires a perfect input for maximum damage and carry
↑ ff+2:1 can be used in place of most fff+2 enders and is ideal for splatting at ranges where Demoman is too close to the wall for a combo conversion
↑ ^5.0 ^5.1 ^5.2 More lenient qcf+1 loop timing due to opponent positioning after launch

Wall

Enders

Pre-Tornado^[1]: Resplat; db+2 > Post-Tornado ender; qcf3+4 > Post-Tornado ender; b1+2 > Post-Tornado ender; DPD.2,1 > Post-Tornado ender

Post-Tornado^[1]: 3,2~b~u > qcf+2; ws1,2~b~u > qcf+2; 1 > df+1~b~u > qcf+2; df+1~b~u > qcf+2; 2 > qcf+2; 3,2~b > d1+2; df+1~b > d1+2; qcf+2; d+4,2:1+2; 3,2~b > qcb+2

Low Hit^[1]: b+1,2 > Post-Tornado ender; qcb+3,2,1 > qcf+2; qcf+2; d1+2

Resplat

Core Resplat Combo

[Starter] W!^[2] > [Reposition]^[3] > qcf+1 W!^[4] > qcf3+4 > d1+2 > [Post-Tornado ender]^[1]

Examples

ff+2:1 W! (small characters): [96] backdash > qcf+1 W! > qcf3+4 > d1+2 > 1 > df1~b~u > qcf+2; [94] backdash > qcf+1 W! > qcf3+4 > d1+2 > df1~b~u > qcf+2; [87] backdash > qcf+1 W! > qcf3+4 > d1+2 > df1~b > d1+2

ff+2:1 W! (large characters): [100] backdash > qcf+1 W! > qcf3+4 > d1+2 > 3,2~b~u > qcf+2; [93] backdash > qcf+1 W! > qcf3+4 > d1+2 > 3,2 > d1+2

H.df1+3:qcf+2 W! (small characters): [107] dash > qcf+1 W! > qcf3+4 > d1+2 > df+1~b~u > H.qcf+2

H.df1+3:qcf+2 W! (large characters): [113] dash > qcf+1 W! > qcf3+4 > d1+2 > 3,2~b~u > H.qcf+2

↑ ^1.0 ^1.1 ^1.2 ^1.3 Optimal ender varies based on spacing, wall hits remaining, and opponent hurtbox size
↑ Starter must be a wall-hitting attack that causes opponent to enter a forward-falling slide state
↑ Adjust spacing so that the next attack splats as high as possible — one backdash is usually sufficient but some splat angles require lateral, delayed or forward movement
↑ Some angles may require ub3+4 W! instead

Float

1: df+4 > 1 > df+4 > 3,1,b > SWA.1+2 T! > fff+2

Heat

Standard

At wall
qcf+2: [82] qcf+2~f > qcf+2; [94] qcf+2~f > qcb+1+2 > 3,2~b > SWA.2

Back-turned opponent

df+2: combo when you hit df+2 in the back
3,2~b 1+2: guaranteed on most characters
WS1,2~b 1+2: guaranteed on most characters, use when tech rolling into an opponent's back

Stage hazard

Secluded Training Ground: big boy break all the walls combo here

Simplified Combo Guide

Staple Combos

df2/uf4, 4, df4, 2, dash, 32b>1+2 T!, fff2 | 67 Damage

uf34, 32, b12 T!, dash, d42 1+2 | 62 Damage

uf34, df4, 2, 32b>1+2 T!, fff2 | 68 Damage

b3, df4, 2, df4, b32b>1+2 T!, fff2 | 69 Damage

qcf1, 4, df4, 2, dash, 32b>1+2 T!, fff2 | 75 Damage

ff4, ws4, df4, 2, dash, 32b>1+2 T!, fff2 | 75 Damage

ws2, 32, 32b>1+2 T!, dash, d42 1+2 | 68 Damage

CH qcb1, 4, df4, b32b>1+2 T!, fff2 | 82 Damage

CH qcb4, qcf1, df4, 2, b32b>1+2, fff2 | 81 Damage

______________________

Wall Combo

At the wall use 32b>2 or d1+2

d1+2, db2 T!, 32>bu, qcf2 | 75 Damage

______________________

Combo Using Heat

CH qcb4, qcf1, df4, 2, dash, 32b>1+2, dash, HB, qcf2F, qcf2 | 97 Damage ______________________

Mini Combos (Guaranteed Hit)

db1+2, d1+2 | 48 Damage

qcf3+4, qcf2 | 58 Damage

CH qcf4, d42 1+2 | 51 Damage

CH df4, f2 | 47 Damage

Extras

Extra combos are juggles that are:

Strictly worse than one of the § Staples; or
Too inconsistent to be a staple; or
Joke combos for style points.

CH CL H.qcf+2 W!: [138] backdash > qcf+1 W! > qcf3+4 > d1+2 > 3,2~b~u > CL H.qcf+2

CH ws(3),2
CH (2),3
CH df+(3),4: SSR > qcf3+4 T! > df4 > df4 > df4 > 2+3...^[1]

↑ Side switches

[no-space-1] 1.0 ^1.1 Should never have a space immediately after it.

[2] Not "for stance transition", which has no special notation and is written the same as any other input.

[3] Not Heat Available, which is not notated, since the only move done from that is Heat Burst, which is simply written 2+3.

[4] Approach for clean hit with extended QCF or microdash

[5] Approach for clean hit with microdash only

[qcf1-6] qcf+1 after high launch offers better damage and wall carry than 4, but is slightly more difficult to execute

[iwr2-7] 2 > fff+2 can be used in place of most fff+2 enders for an additional 2-3 damage, but is much more difficult to execute

[wr2-8] Demoman can be used in place of most fff+2 enders for additional wall carry, but it deals less damage at high scaling, leads to inferior okizeme, and requires a perfect input for maximum damage and carry

[ff21-9] +2:1 can be used in place of most fff+2 enders and is ideal for splatting at ranges where Demoman is too close to the wall for a combo conversion

[qcf1_loop-10] 5.0 ^5.1 ^5.2 More lenient qcf+1 loop timing due to opponent positioning after launch

[wall_ender-11] 1.0 ^1.1 ^1.2 ^1.3 Optimal ender varies based on spacing, wall hits remaining, and opponent hurtbox size

[12] Starter must be a wall-hitting attack that causes opponent to enter a forward-falling slide state

[13] Adjust spacing so that the next attack splats as high as possible — one backdash is usually sufficient but some splat angles require lateral, delayed or forward movement

[14] Some angles may require ub3+4 W! instead

[15] Side switches

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 ; Pre-Tornado<ref name="wall_ender"></ref>
 : [[Paul_combos#Resplat|Resplat]]
-: db+2/qcf3+4/b1+2 > Post-Tornado ender
+: db+2 > Post-Tornado ender
-: DPD.2,1 > 1 > df+1~b~u > qcf+2
+: qcf3+4 > Post-Tornado ender
+: b1+2 > Post-Tornado ender
+: DPD.2,1 > Post-Tornado ender