Kunimitsu punishers: Difference between revisions

Latest revision as of 09:07, 20 September 2023

Punishers for tricky moves
Various	Slide	ws1 ws2,4 cc db+2
Generic	FUFT.4	f,F+4,2 4,2
Alisa	b+4,4 b+4,4,3+4~1	uf+3,4
Alisa	b+3+4 b+3+4,3+4	uf+3,4
Armor King & King	db+4	cc db+2 (hard) f,F+2
Asuka	b+3	df+1+2 (can whiff) f,F+4,2 df+3+4
Claudio	f+2,2	qcf+1
Devil Jin	u+4 u+4,U~n_1_2_3	uf+3,4^[1]
Devil Jin	R.f,n,d,df+4,3+4	f,d,df+2
Eddy	3~4	uf+3+4 ws3
Eddy	b+3,3	f,d,df+2
Heihachi	f,F+2	qcf+1
Jack-7	R.b+1+2	(uf+3),4 (can whiff) f+3~4,3
Jack-7	d+1+2	f,F+4,2 (can whiff) qcf+1
Law	db+3+4	qcf+2
Leroy	db+1+2	f,F+4,2 (hard)
Lucky Chloe	BT.f+3+4,3+4 BT.f+3+4,3+4,3+4	qcf+2
Paul	d+4,2:1+2 qcf+2	f,F+4,2 qcf+1
Xiaoyu	BT.3	qcf+1
	BT.f+3+4,3+4	uf+3,4
	AOP.4~3	ws2,4 cc b+4 FC.df+2

Enemy	Move	Damage	Frames
Standing
-10	1,2,2	26	+4
-10	f,F+4,2	34	+36d (-22)
-12	4,2	30	+6 BT
-12	2,2	26	+5
-13	f+2,3	32	+20a (+11)
-14	f,n,d,df+2	31 (?)	+59a (+42)
-15	df+2	13 (?)	+30a (+20)
	uf+3	13 (?)	+31a (+21)
	uf+3,4	27 (?)	+27a (+20)
-19	ub+3+4	25 (?)	+32a (+22)
Crouching
-10	FC.1	5	+6
-11	ws4	15	+5
-11	f,F+4,2	34	+36d (-22)
-13	ws1,1	26	+3c
-14	ws2,4	34	+11g
-15	ws3	16 (?)	+32a (+22)
-19	ub+3+4	25 (?)	+32a (+22)
Back-turned opponent
-10	1,2,4 f,F+2	54	+19a (+2)
-13	df+1,2,2 qcf+2	?	?
Grounded opponent
-13	qcf+2	16	-11a (-19)
-16	db+2	12	+2a (-6)
-16	d+3	9	-3a (-11)
-20	f,F+2	19	+19a (+2)

Move	Speed	Range	Damage	Risk	Hitbox
Whiff punishers
1,1	i10	2.24	19	-5	High^[2]
2,2	i12	2.30	26	-6	High^[2]
4,2	i12	2.30	30	-3 BT	High
f+2,3	i13	2.58	32	-28^[3]	High
uf+3	i15	2.53^[4]	13 (?)	-13	Mid
f,F+4,2	i9(~12+)	2.63	34	-17	Mid
df+1+2	i17	2.84	29 (48)	-14	Mid
df+3+4	i17	2.87	30	-2	Mid
ub+3+4	i19	2.79	25 (?)	-17	Mid
qcf+1	i15(~17+)	∞	27	-11	Mid

↑ First hit can whiff in both cases, but still combos.
↑ ^2.0 ^2.1 Second hit mid, so minimal risk vs crouching.
↑ Duckable high with up to 8 frames delay.
↑ Effective range is lower against crouching opponents.

[1] First hit can whiff in both cases, but still combos.

[high-mid-2] 2.0 ^2.1 Second hit mid, so minimal risk vs crouching.

[duckable-3] Duckable high with up to 8 frames delay.

[4] Effective range is lower against crouching opponents.

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[2]

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-{{Row|
 {{Kunimitsu}}
-{{Navbox punishers}}
+{{Infobox tricky moves
+|slide={{Plainlist|
+* [[Kunimitsu combos#Float|ws1]]
+* [[Kunimitsu combos#Float|ws2,4]]
+* [[Kunimitsu combos#Float|cc db+2]]
 }}
-{{Infobox tricky moves
+|generic-a={{Plainlist|
+* f,F+4,2
+* 4,2}}
+|alisa-a=uf+3,4
+|alisa-b=uf+3,4
+|king-a={{Plainlist|
+* cc [[Kunimitsu combos#Float|db+2]] ''(hard)''
+* f,F+2}}
+|asuka-a={{Plainlist|
+* [[Kunimitsu combos#Mini-combos|df+1+2]] ''(can whiff)''
+* f,F+4,2
+* df+3+4}}
+|claudio-a=qcf+1
+|devil-jin-a=uf+3,4<ref>First hit can whiff in both cases, but still combos.</ref>
+|devil-jin-b=f,d,df+2
+|eddy-a={{Plainlist|
+* uf+3+4
+* ws3}}
+|eddy-b=f,d,df+2
 |heihachi-a=qcf+1
+|jack-7-a={{Plainlist|
+* (uf+3),4 ''(can whiff)''
+* f+3~4,3}}
+|jack-7-b={{Plainlist|
+* f,F+4,2 ''(can whiff)''
+* qcf+1}}
+|law-a=qcf+2
+|leroy-a=f,F+4,2 ''(hard)''
+|lucky-chloe-a={{Plainlist|
+* qcf+2}}
+|paul-a={{Plainlist|
+* f,F+4,2
+* qcf+1}}
+|xiaoyu-a=qcf+1
+|xiaoyu-b=[[Kunimitsu combos#Back-turned opponent|uf+3,4]]
+|xiaoyu-c={{Plainlist|
+* [[Kunimitsu combos#Float|ws2,4]]
+* [[Kunimitsu combos#Float|cc b+4]]
+* [[Kunimitsu combos#Float|FC.df+2]]}}
 }}
+{{Navbox punishers (Tekken 7)}}
 {| class="punishers"
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 | -13 || f+2,3 || 32 || +20a (+11)
 |-
-| -14 || f,n,d,df+2 || 31 (?) || +59a (+42)
+| -14 || f,n,d,df+2 || 31 ([[Kunimitsu combos#Staples|?]]) || +59a (+42)
 |-
 | rowspan="3" | -15
-| df+2 || 13 (?) || +30a (+20)
+| df+2 || 13 ([[Kunimitsu combos#Staples|?]]) || +30a (+20)
 |-
-| uf+3 || 13 (?) || +31a (+21)
+| uf+3 || 13 ([[Kunimitsu combos#Staples|?]]) || +31a (+21)
 |-
-| uf+3,4 || 27 (?) || +27a (+20)
+| uf+3,4 || 27 ([[Kunimitsu combos#Staples|?]]) || +27a (+20)
 |-
-| -19 || ub+3+4 || 25 (?) || +32a (+22)
+| -19 || ub+3+4 || 25 ([[Kunimitsu combos#Staples|?]]) || +32a (+22)
 |-
 | colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Crouching
 |-
-| rowspan="2" | -10
+| -10 || FC.1 || 5 || +6
-| FC.1 || 5 || +6
+|-
+| rowspan="2" | -11
+| ws4 || 15 || +5
 |-
 | f,F+4,2 || 34 || +36d (-22)
 |-
-| -11 || ws4 || 15 || +5
+| -13 || ws1,1 || 26 || +3c
-|-
-| -13 || ws1,1 || 26 || +3
 |-
 | -14 || ws2,4 || 34 || +11g
 |-
-| -15 || ws3 || 16 (?) || +32a (+22)
+| -15 || ws3 || 16 ([[Kunimitsu combos#Staples|?]]) || +32a (+22)
 |-
-| -19 || ub+3+4 || 25 (?) || +32a (+22)
+| -19 || ub+3+4 || 25 ([[Kunimitsu combos#Staples|?]]) || +32a (+22)
 |-
 | colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Back-turned opponent
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 | -10 || 1,2,4 f,F+2 || 54 || +19a (+2)
 |-
-| -12 || 2,2,2,2,2 qcf+2<ref>Opponent can turn around after last hit of 2,2,2,2,2 with a throw, so f,F+2 isn't guaranteed. But if they don't turn around it is.</ref> || 95 || -11a (-21)
+| -13 || df+1,2,2 qcf+2 || ? || ?
 |-
 | colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Grounded opponent
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 | f+2,3 || i13 || 2.58 || 32 || -28<ref name="duckable">Duckable high with up to 8 frames delay.</ref> || High
 |-
-| uf+3 || i15 || 2.53<ref>Effective range is lower against crouching opponents.</ref> || 13 (?) || -13 || Mid
+| uf+3 || i15 || 2.53<ref>Effective range is lower against crouching opponents.</ref> || 13 ([[Kunimitsu combos#Staples|?]]) || -13 || Mid
 |-
 | f,F+4,2 || i9(~12+) || 2.63 || 34 || -17 || Mid
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 | df+1+2 || i17 || 2.84 || 29 ([[Kunimitsu combos#Mini-combos|48]]) || -14 || Mid
 |-
-| ub+3+4 || i19 || 2.79 || 25 (?) || -17 || Mid
+| df+3+4 || i17 || 2.87 || 30 || -2 || Mid
+|-
+| ub+3+4 || i19 || 2.79 || 25 ([[Kunimitsu combos#Staples|?]]) || -17 || Mid
 |-
 | qcf+1 || i15(~17+) || ∞ || 27 || -11 || Mid