Eddy punishers (Tekken 7): Difference between revisions

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Punishers for tricky moves
Various	Slide	{{{slide}}}
Generic	FUFT.4	{{{generic-a}}}
Alisa	b+4,4 b+4,4,3+4~1	f+3+4 qcf+3
Alisa	b+3+4 b+3+4,3+4	df+3+4 df+1,1
Armor King & King	db+4	{{{king-a}}}
Asuka	b+3	{{{asuka-a}}}
Claudio	f+2,2	{{{claudio-a}}}
Devil Jin	u+4 u+4,U~n_1_2_3	{{{devil-jin-a}}}
Devil Jin	R.f,n,d,df+4,3+4	{{{devil-jin-b}}}
Eddy	3~4	ws2
Eddy	b+3,3	b+3,3
Heihachi	f,F+2	{{{heihachi-a}}}
Jack-7	R.b+1+2	{{{jack-7-a}}}
Jack-7	d+1+2	{{{jack-7-b}}}
Law	db+3+4	{{{law-a}}}
Leroy	db+1+2	{{{leroy-a}}}
Lucky Chloe	BT.f+3+4,3+4 BT.f+3+4,3+4,3+4	b+3,3 (after first hit)
Paul	d+4,2:1+2 qcf+2	{{{paul-a}}}
Xiaoyu	BT.3	{{{xiaoyu-a}}}
	BT.f+3+4,3+4	{{{xiaoyu-b}}}
	AOP.4~3	{{{xiaoyu-c}}}

This page is for Tekken 7. For Tekken 8, see Eddy punishers.

Standing Punishes

▫ 10 frame 1,2 (19 Damage) first hit high, -4 on block

▫ 12 frame 1+2 (27 Damage) first hit high, +0 to +1 on block

▫ 15 to 18 frame df 3+4, b33, RLX 23, b24 s!, ff d23, RLX 3 (73 Damage) first hit mid, -23 to -20 on block

While Standing Punishes

▫ 13 frame ws 13, RLX 4 s!, ff b33, RLX 243 (71 Damage)

Enemy	Move	Damage	Frames
Standing
-10	1,2^[1]	15	+7
Crouching
-11	ws4^[1]	18	+6
Back-turned opponent
-10	1,2,3^[1]	40	+10a (+1)
Grounded opponent
-16	d+3^[1]	9	-3a (-11)

Move	Speed	Range	Damage	Risk	Hitbox
Whiff punishers
1,2^[1]	i10	2.00	15	-1	High^[2]

↑ ^1.0 ^1.1 ^1.2 ^1.3 ^1.4 Example. Remove after substitution.
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ws1,3

The first hit of ws1,3 is a high, so there are a lot of moves which are at least -13 but which can't be punished by it, such as:

This list is incomplete. You can help by expanding it.

Alisa: d+3; db+4; SBT.3

Old table (TODO: copy to above)

Standing
Enemy	Move	Damage	Frames
-10	1^[1]	7	+8
-10	1,2	19	+4
-12	f+2,3 ^[2]	31	+6
	1+2 ^[3]	27	+6
	-12	4 ^[4]	14	0
-13	df+1,1	18	+8
-14	b+2,4	37	KND
-15	df+3+4	17	Launch

Crouching
Enemy	Move	Damage	Frames
-10	FC.1	5	+6
-13	ws+1,3^[5].	27	Launch
-13	d+1+3, d+2+4^[6]	45	KND
-15	ws+2	12	Launch
-19	ws+3	15	Launch
-23	uf,N, 4	25	Launch

Extra range
Enemy	Move	Damage	Frames	Can reach
-19	qcf+3	15	Launch	Asuka b+3 Alisa b+4,4

Back-turned opponent
Enemy	Move	Damage	Frames

Grounded opponent
Enemy	Move	Damage	Frames

Whiff
Move	Damage	Frames	Risk
b+2,4	37	KND	can be ducked
b+2,3	31	+5	safe alternative to b+2,4
df+3+4	17	Launch	-23
ff+3 ^[7]	30	KND	-14 ^[8]

↑ Generic 1 jab. Great punish!
↑ leaves you in HSP
↑ very short range and can often whiff
↑ long ranged punish when nothing else works
↑ Doesn't hit moves which recover in crouch
↑ mixup punish between a 1 and 2 break with same animation
↑ Wallbounce
↑ -2 when cancelled into RLX

External links

Playlist by Spero Gin going over how to punish every move for the entire cast with Eddy (2019)

[p-1] 1.0 ^1.1 ^1.2 ^1.3 ^1.4 Example. Remove after substitution.

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[3] Generic 1 jab. Great punish!

[4] ves you in HSP

[5] very short range and can often whiff

[6] ranged punish when nothing else works

[7] Doesn't hit moves which recover in crouch

[8] xup punish between a 1 and 2 break with same animation

[9] Wallbounce

[10] -2 when cancelled into RLX

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@@ Line 1: / Line 1: @@
 {{Eddy}}
+{{Infobox tricky moves
+|alisa-a={{Plainlist|
+* f+3+4
+* qcf+3}}
+|alisa-b={{Plainlist|
+* df+3+4
+* df+1,1}}
+|eddy-a= ws2
+|eddy-b= b+3,3
+|lucky-chloe-a= b+3,3 (after first hit)
+}}
+{{Navbox punishers (Tekken 7)}}
+{{See other}}
+Standing Punishes
+▫ 10 frame    1,2   (19 Damage) first hit high, -4 on block
+▫ 12 frame    1+2   (27 Damage) first hit high, +0 to +1 on block
+▫ 15 to 18 frame   df 3+4, b33, RLX 23, b24 s!, ff d23, RLX 3   (73 Damage) first hit mid, -23 to -20 on block
+While Standing Punishes
+▫ 13 frame   ws 13, RLX 4 s!, ff b33, RLX 243   (71 Damage)
+{| class="punishers"
+| colspan="4"  class="table-cat" | Standing
+|-
+! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]]
+|-
+| -10 || 1,2<ref name="p">Example. Remove after substitution.</ref> || 15 || +7
+|-
+| colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Crouching
+|-
+| -11 || ws4<ref name="p"/> || 18 || +6
+|-
+| colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Back-turned opponent
+|-
+| -10 || 1,2,3<ref name="p"/> || 40 || +10a (+1)
+|-
+| colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Grounded opponent
+|-
+| -16 || d+3<ref name="p"/> || 9 || -3a (-11)
+|}
+{| class="punishers" style="clear: both"
+| colspan="6" class="table-cat" | Whiff punishers
+|-
+! Move !! Speed !! [[Movelist#Range|Range]] !! Damage !! Risk !! Hitbox
+|-
+| 1,2<ref name="p"/> || i10 || 2.00 || 15 || -1 || High<ref>Use references to add more extensive notes or details. Don't add new columns and don't fill them out with entire paragraphs.</ref>
+|-
+|}
+<references/>
+== ws1,3 ==
+The first hit of ws1,3 is a high, so there are a lot of moves which are at least -13 but which can't be punished by it, such as:
+{{Incomplete}}
+{{Combolist|columns=9em|
+; Alisa
+: d+3
+: db+4
+: SBT.3
+}}
+== Old table (TODO: copy to above) ==
 <div style="display: flex; flex-flow: row wrap; gap: 0 1em;>
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 |-
 | -15 || df+3+4 ||17 || Launch
-|-
-| -19 || qcf+3 || 15 || Launch
 |}
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 |rowspan ='2'| -13 || ws+1,3<ref> Doesn't hit moves which recover in crouch</ref>.|| 27|| Launch
 |-
-| -13 || d+1+3, d+2+4<ref> mixup punish between a 1 and 2 break with same animation </ref>|| 45 || KND
+| d+1+3, d+2+4<ref> mixup punish between a 1 and 2 break with same animation </ref>|| 45 || KND
 |-
 | -15 || ws+2 ||12|| Launch
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 |-
 ! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]] !! Can reach
+|-
+| -19 || qcf+3 || 15 || Launch || {{Plainlist|
+* Asuka b+3
+* Alisa b+4,4
 |}
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 <references/>
+== External links ==
+* [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrZUQ7AtS4lDPkmO69hB4092sEPMvgzre Playlist by Spero Gin going over how to punish every move for the entire cast with Eddy] (2019)