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{{Lee}}
{{Lee}}
{{Infobox tricky moves
|slide=ws2,3 ...
|generic-a=f+4
|alisa-a={{Plainlist|
* uf+3,4
* f~n<3,4<ref>Continue with f+4,1 if she's flying. The opposite Devil Jin's u+4,U.</ref>
* f,f 4,3,4<ref>Don't finish the string if she lands.</ref>
* f,f 4,u+3}}
|alisa-b=uf+4
|king-a={{Plainlist|
* cc b+3,3,f~n ...
* cc f+3+4
* ub+3}}
|asuka-a={{Plainlist|
* f,F+3
* R.df+3+4}}
|claudio-a=f,F+3 ''(deep dash)''<ref>This can be done easily with Assist.3.</ref>
|devil-jin-a=f~n<3,4<ref>Don't finish the string if he's still flying. Can continue with d+2 b+2,f~n(x3) S! f+2,1 for max damage.</ref>
|devil-jin-b=f+2,1
|eddy-a=uf,n,4
|eddy-b=3 b+3,3,f~n ...
|heihachi-a={{Plainlist|
* f,F+3
* R.df+3+4}}
|jack-7-a=f,F+4 ''(deep dash)''
|jack-7-b=f,F+3
|law-a=df+4
|leroy-a=f+4
|lucky-chloe-a=f+4,1
|paul-a={{Plainlist|
* f,F+3
* R.df+3+4}}
|xiaoyu-a=''(None)''
|xiaoyu-b=4,3,3
|xiaoyu-c=ws2,3 ...
}}
{{Navbox punishers (Tekken 7)}}


<div style="display: flex; flex-flow: row wrap; gap: 0 1em;>
{| class="punishers"
{| class="wikitable"
| colspan="4"  class="table-cat" | Standing
|+ Standing
|-
|-
! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]]
! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]]
|-
|-
|rowspan="2"|-10 || 1,3:3:3 || 28 (44) || [[Lee combos#Mini-combos|+14a]]
| rowspan="2" | -10
| 1,3:3:3 || 28 ([[Acid Rain#Followup|44]]) || +14a
|-
|-
| 1,2,4 || 26 || -1
| 1,2,4 || 26 || -1
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| -11 || 4,3 || 30 || -3
| -11 || 4,3 || 30 || -3
|-
|-
| -13 || f+1+2 || 30 || +18a (+9a)
| -13 || f+1+2 || 30 || +18a (+9)
|-
|-
| -14 || f+2,1 || 36 || +42d (-16d)
| -14 || f+2,1 || 36 || +42d (-16)
|-
|-
| -15 || f+3,3,3,3,3,4 || 32 (66) || [[Lee combos#Staples|+61a (+44a)]]
| -15 || f+3,3,3,3,3,4 || 32 ([[Lee combos#Staples|66]]) || +61a (+44)
|-
|-
| -15 || u/f+4 || 13 (66) || [[Lee combos#Staples|+31a (+21a)]]
| -15 || uf+4 || 13 ([[Lee combos#Staples|66]]) || +31a (+21)
|}
 
{| class="wikitable"
|+ Crouching
|-
|-
! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]]
| -16 || R.df+3+4,f~n || 25 ([[Lee combos#Staples|78]]) || +54a (+34)
|- 
| colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Crouching
|-
|-
| -10 || ws3,3 || 27 || -4c
| -10 || ws3,3 || 27 || -4c
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| -13 || ws1,4 || 30 || +4
| -13 || ws1,4 || 30 || +4
|-
|-
| -14 || ws2,3 || 36 (54) || [[Lee combos#Mini-combos|+32a (+22a)]]
| -14 || ws2,3 || 36 ([[Lee combos#Mini-combos|54]]/[[Lee combos#Rage|94]]) || +32a (+22)
|-
|-
| -15 || u/f+4 || 13 (66) || [[Lee combos#Staples|+31a (+21a)]]
| -15 || uf+4 || 13 ([[Lee combos#Staples|66]]) || +31a (+21)
|-
|-
| -23 || u/f~n,4 || 25 (78) || [[Lee combos#Staples|+34a (+24a)]]
| -23 || uf,n,4 || 25 ([[Lee combos#Staples|78]]) || +34a (+24)
|}
|-
 
| colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Back-turned opponent
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|+ Extra range
| -10 || 1,2,2,3 || 53 || +17a (+8)
|-
| -11 || 4,3,3 || 50 || +8d
|-
|-
! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]] !! Can reach
| -15 || df+3,2,3 || 48 ([[Lee combos#Back-turned opponent|91]]) || +25a (+15)
|- style="vertical-align: middle"
| -11 || f+4 || 13 || +4 || {{Plainlist|
* FUFT 4
* Leroy d/b+1+2}}
|- style="vertical-align: middle"
| -15 || f,F+3 || 26 || +10a (+1a) || {{Plainlist|
* Asuka b+3
* Heihachi f,F+2}}
|-
|-
| -16 || R! d/f+3+4 || 25 (78) || [[Lee combos#Staples|+55a (+35a)]] || Paul qcf+2
| colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Grounded opponent
|}
 
{| class="wikitable"
|+ Back-turned opponent
|-
|-
! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]]
| -16 || d+3 || 13 || -3a (-11)
|-
|-
| -10 || 1,2,2,3 || 53 || +17a (+8a)
| -18 || ub+3 || 16 || +20a (+3)
|-
|-
| -11 || 4,3,3 || 50 || +8d
| -23 || d,DB+4 || 19 || +10a (-7)
|-
|-
| -15 || d/f+3,2,3 || 48 (91) || [[Lee combos#Back-turned opponent|+25a (+15a)]]
| -30 || f+3+4 || 22 || -2a
|}
|}


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="punishers" style="clear: both"
|+ Grounded opponent
| colspan="6" class="table-cat" | Whiff punishers
|-
! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]]
|-
|-
| -16 || d+3 || 13 || -3a (-11a)
! Move !! Speed !! [[Movelist#Range|Range]] !! Damage !! Risk !! Hitbox
|-
|-
| -18 || u/b+3 || 16 || +20a (+3a)
| 1,3:3:3 || i10 || 2.03 || 28 ([[Acid Rain#Followup|44]]) || -11<ref name="hc">Hit confirm</ref><ref>Full string is -18 but with enough pushback to be tricky or even safe in many matchups</ref> || High
|-
|-
| -23 || d,D/B+4 || 19 || +10a (-7a)
| 2,1 || i10 || 2.07 || 18 || -5 || High
|-
|-
| -30 || f+3+4|| 22 || -2a
| f+4 || i11 || 2.31 || 13 || -7 || High
|}
 
{| class="wikitable"
|+ Whiff
|-
|-
! Move !! [[Movelist#Range|Range]] !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]] !! Risk
| f+3,3,3,3,3,4 || i15 || 2.63 || 32 ([[Lee combos#Staples|66]]) || -18<ref>Opponent has to guess if you finish the string or not</ref> || Mid
|-
|-
| f+3,3,3,3,3,4 || 2.63 || 32 (66) || [[Lee combos#Staples|+61a (+44a)]] || unsafe
| b+1:1,2 || i15 || 2.64 || 43 || -1 HMS<ref name="hc"/> || High
|-
|-
| b+1:1,2 || 2.64 || 43 || +39d (-19d) || safe if hit confirmed
| uf+4 || i15 || 2.21 || 13 ([[Lee combos#Staples|66]]) || -13 || Mid
|-
|-
| f,F+3 || 3.10 || 26 || +10a (+1a) || safe
| df+2 || i15 || 2.05 || 12 ([[Lee combos#Staples|65]]) || -7 || Mid<ref>Won't launch crouching recovery, and bad vertical hitbox</ref>
|-
|-
| u/f+4 || 2.21 || 13 (66) || [[Lee combos#Staples|+31a (+21a)]] || unsafe
| R.df+3+4 || i16 || 2.86 || 25 ([[Lee combos#Staples|78]]) || -1 || Mid
|-
|-
| d/f+2 || 2.05 || 12 (65) || [[Lee combos#Staples|+34a (+24a)]] || safe
| f,F+3 || i13(~16+) || 3.10 || 26 || -11<ref>Safe from pushback (usually)</ref> || Mid
|-
|-
| R! d/f+3+4 || 2.86 || 25 (78) || [[Lee combos#Staples|+55a (+35a)]] || safe
| f,n,3,4 || i15(~17+) || 2.25<ref>Move itself has poor range, so is only really useful with a deep mist step to punish a big whiff too far away for other launchers</ref> || 20 ([[Lee combos#Staples|73]]) || -13 || Mid
|}
|}
</div>
 
<references/>


== External links ==
== External links ==


* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM4ltoRS7ZA Video guide by Murakumo]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM4ltoRS7ZA Video guide by Murakumo]

Latest revision as of 15:58, 25 January 2024

Punishers for tricky moves
Various Slide ws2,3 ...
Generic FUFT.4 f+4
Alisa
  • b+4,4
  • b+4,4,3+4~1
  • uf+3,4
  • f~n<3,4[1]
  • f,f 4,3,4[2]
  • f,f 4,u+3
  • b+3+4
  • b+3+4,3+4
uf+4
db+4
  • cc b+3,3,f~n ...
  • cc f+3+4
  • ub+3
Asuka b+3
  • f,F+3
  • R.df+3+4
Claudio f+2,2 f,F+3 (deep dash)[3]
Devil Jin
  • u+4
  • u+4,U~n_1_2_3
f~n<3,4[4]
R.f,n,d,df+4,3+4 f+2,1
Eddy 3~4 uf,n,4
b+3,3 3 b+3,3,f~n ...
Heihachi f,F+2
  • f,F+3
  • R.df+3+4
Jack-7 R.b+1+2 f,F+4 (deep dash)
d+1+2 f,F+3
Law db+3+4 df+4
Leroy db+1+2 f+4
Lucky Chloe
  • BT.f+3+4,3+4
  • BT.f+3+4,3+4,3+4
f+4,1
Paul
  • d+4,2:1+2
  • qcf+2
  • f,F+3
  • R.df+3+4
Xiaoyu BT.3 (None)
BT.f+3+4,3+4 4,3,3
AOP.4~3 ws2,3 ...
Standing
Enemy Move Damage Frames
-10 1,3:3:3 28 (44) +14a
1,2,4 26 -1
-11 4,3 30 -3
-13 f+1+2 30 +18a (+9)
-14 f+2,1 36 +42d (-16)
-15 f+3,3,3,3,3,4 32 (66) +61a (+44)
-15 uf+4 13 (66) +31a (+21)
-16 R.df+3+4,f~n 25 (78) +54a (+34)
Crouching
-10 ws3,3 27 -4c
-13 ws1,4 30 +4
-14 ws2,3 36 (54/94) +32a (+22)
-15 uf+4 13 (66) +31a (+21)
-23 uf,n,4 25 (78) +34a (+24)
Back-turned opponent
-10 1,2,2,3 53 +17a (+8)
-11 4,3,3 50 +8d
-15 df+3,2,3 48 (91) +25a (+15)
Grounded opponent
-16 d+3 13 -3a (-11)
-18 ub+3 16 +20a (+3)
-23 d,DB+4 19 +10a (-7)
-30 f+3+4 22 -2a
Whiff punishers
Move Speed Range Damage Risk Hitbox
1,3:3:3 i10 2.03 28 (44) -11[5][6] High
2,1 i10 2.07 18 -5 High
f+4 i11 2.31 13 -7 High
f+3,3,3,3,3,4 i15 2.63 32 (66) -18[7] Mid
b+1:1,2 i15 2.64 43 -1 HMS[5] High
uf+4 i15 2.21 13 (66) -13 Mid
df+2 i15 2.05 12 (65) -7 Mid[8]
R.df+3+4 i16 2.86 25 (78) -1 Mid
f,F+3 i13(~16+) 3.10 26 -11[9] Mid
f,n,3,4 i15(~17+) 2.25[10] 20 (73) -13 Mid
  1. Continue with f+4,1 if she's flying. The opposite Devil Jin's u+4,U.
  2. Don't finish the string if she lands.
  3. This can be done easily with Assist.3.
  4. Don't finish the string if he's still flying. Can continue with d+2 b+2,f~n(x3) S! f+2,1 for max damage.
  5. 5.0 5.1 Hit confirm
  6. Full string is -18 but with enough pushback to be tricky or even safe in many matchups
  7. Opponent has to guess if you finish the string or not
  8. Won't launch crouching recovery, and bad vertical hitbox
  9. Safe from pushback (usually)
  10. Move itself has poor range, so is only really useful with a deep mist step to punish a big whiff too far away for other launchers

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