Bob punishers: Difference between revisions

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Punishers for tricky moves
Various	Slide	{{{slide}}}
Generic	FUFT.4	{{{generic-a}}}
Alisa	b+4,4 b+4,4,3+4~1	{{{alisa-a}}}
Alisa	b+3+4 b+3+4,3+4	{{{alisa-b}}}
Armor King & King	db+4	{{{king-a}}}
Asuka	b+3	{{{asuka-a}}}
Claudio	f+2,2	{{{claudio-a}}}
Devil Jin	u+4 u+4,U~n_1_2_3	{{{devil-jin-a}}}
Devil Jin	R.f,n,d,df+4,3+4	{{{devil-jin-b}}}
Eddy	3~4	{{{eddy-a}}}
Eddy	b+3,3	{{{eddy-b}}}
Heihachi	f,F+2	{{{heihachi-a}}}
Jack-7	R.b+1+2	{{{jack-7-a}}}
Jack-7	d+1+2	{{{jack-7-b}}}
Law	db+3+4	{{{law-a}}}
Leroy	db+1+2	{{{leroy-a}}}
Lucky Chloe	BT.f+3+4,3+4 BT.f+3+4,3+4,3+4	{{{lucky-chloe-a}}}
Paul	d+4,2:1+2 qcf+2	{{{paul-a}}}
Xiaoyu	BT.3	{{{xiaoyu-a}}}
	BT.f+3+4,3+4	{{{xiaoyu-b}}}
	AOP.4~3	{{{xiaoyu-c}}}

Enemy	Move	Damage	Frames
Standing
-10	1,1,2	26	+3
-10	1,4	22	+5
-12	f+2,3	32	+12a (+3)
-14	d+1+2,2,1	35 (51)	+12a
-15	uf+4	20 (?)	+65a (+45)
-20	uf+3	20 (?)	+33a (+23)
Crouching
-10	FC.1	5	+6
-11	ws4	20	+5
-14	ws2,1	24 (?)	+30a (+20)
-15	ws1,3	36 (?)	+11a (+2)
Back-turned opponent
-10	1,2,1+2	37	+16a (+7)
-13	b+2,2,4,4	58	+18a (+9)
-20	uf+2,3,3+4,4	58 (?)	+19a
Grounded opponent
-17	b+3	16	+17a (+0)
-18	d+1	14	+3a (-5)
-19	d+3	11	-7a (-15)
-24	db+4	12	-1a (-9)

Move	Speed	Range	Damage	Risk	Hitbox
Whiff punishers
1,1,2	i10	2.28	28	-12	High
1,1	i10	2.28	14	-1	High
1,4	i10	2.06^[1]	22	-6	High
1,2	i10	2.06^[1]	17	-3	High
f+2,3	i12	2.75	32	-15	High
b+2,2	i13	2.43	22	-3/-22^[2]	Mid
df+1,2	i14	2.29	28	-10	Mid
uf+4	i15	2.44	20 (?)	-9	High
d+2,4	i15	2.88	33	-13	Mid
uf+1+2,1+2	i16	3.18	40	-17^[3]	Mid
uf+1+2,4	i16	3.18	35	-1/-28^[2]^[3]	Mid
db+1+2	i18	2.90	16 (?)	-13	Mid

↑ ^1.0 ^1.1 Second hit of 1,4 and 1,2 whiffs at tip range.
↑ ^2.0 ^2.1 Duckable high.
↑ ^3.0 ^3.1 uf+1+2 extensions can be delayed a lot for a hit confirm, and opponent has to guess mid/high to get a punish.

[jab-strings-sus-1] 1.0 ^1.1 Second hit of 1,4 and 1,2 whiffs at tip range.

[duckable-2] 2.0 ^2.1 Duckable high.

[uf12-risk-3] 3.0 ^3.1 uf+1+2 extensions can be delayed a lot for a hit confirm, and opponent has to guess mid/high to get a punish.

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 {{Bob}}
+{{Infobox tricky moves}}
+{{Navbox punishers (Tekken 7)}}
-<div style="display: flex; flex-flow: row wrap; gap: 0 1em;>
+{| class="punishers"
-{| class="wikitable"
+| colspan="4"  class="table-cat" | Standing
-|+ Standing
 |-
-! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]] !! Notes
+! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]]
 |-
 | rowspan="2" | -10
-| 1,1,2 || 26 || +3 || Standard punish. Use f1 for more range
+| 1,1,2 || 26 || +3
+|-
+| 1,4 || 22 || +5
+|-
+| -12 || f+2,3 || 32 || +12a (+3)
+|-
+| -14 || d+1+2,2,1 || 35 ([[Bob combos#Mini-combos|51]]) || +12a
+|-
+| -15 || uf+4 || 20 ([[Bob combos#Staples|?]]) || +65a (+45)
+|-
+| -20 || uf+3 || 20 ([[Bob combos#Staples|?]]) || +33a (+23)
+|-
+| colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Crouching
+|-
+| -10 || FC.1 || 5 || +6
+|-
+| -11 || ws4 || 20 || +5
+|-
+| -14 || ws2,1 || 24 ([[Bob combos#Staples|?]]) || +30a (+20)
+|-
+| -15 || ws1,3 || 36 ([[Bob combos#Wall|?]]) || +11a (+2)
+|-
+| colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Back-turned opponent
+|-
+| -10 || 1,2,1+2 || 37 || +16a (+7)
+|-
+| -13 || b+2,2,4,4 || 58 || +18a (+9)
 |-
-| 1,4 || 22 || +5 || Better CH setups on hit; safer in case of uncertainty on a punish
+| -20 || uf+2,3,3+4,4 || 58 ([[Bob combos#Back-turned opponent|?]]) || +19a
 |-
-| -12 || f2,3 || 32 || KND || Very good range for an i12 punish
+| colspan="4" class="table-cat" | Grounded opponent
 |-
-| -14 || d1+2,2,1 || 35 || KND || Follow up with microdash b3 for 51 dmg guaranteed
+| -17 || b+3 || 16 || +17a (+0)
 |-
-| -15 || uf4 || 20 || Launch || Tailspins on hit
+| -18 || d+1 || 14 || +3a (-5)
 |-
-| -20 || uf3 || 20|| KND || Substantial combo damage increase
+| -19 || d+3 || 11 || -7a (-15)
 |-
+| -24 || db+4 || 12 || -1a (-9)
 |}
-{| class="wikitable"
+{| class="punishers" style="clear: both"
-|+ Crouching
+| colspan="6" class="table-cat" | Whiff punishers
 |-
-! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]] !! Notes
+! Move !! Speed !! [[Movelist#Range|Range]] !! Damage !! Risk !! Hitbox
 |-
-| -10 || FC.1 || 5 || +6 || Standard downjab
+| 1,1,2 || i10 || 2.28 || 28 || -12 || High
 |-
-| -11 || ws4 || 20 || +5 || Above average range and dmg for a ws4
+| 1,1 || i10 || 2.28 || 14 || -1 || High
-|-
-| -14 || ws2,1 || 24 || Launch || Best range + dmg of any i14 ws launcher
-|}
-{| class="wikitable"
-|+ Extra range
 |-
-! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]] !! Can reach
+| 1,4 || i10 || 2.06<ref name="jab-strings-sus">Second hit of 1,4 and 1,2 whiffs at tip range.</ref> || 22 || -6 || High
 |-
-| -15 || d2,4 || 33 || KND || Lucky Chloe u3
+| 1,2 || i10 || 2.06<ref name="jab-strings-sus"/> || 17 || -3 || High
 |-
-| -16 || uf1+2,1+2 || 40 || KND || Bryan ws1
+| f+2,3 || i12 || 2.75 || 32 || -15 || High
 |-
-| -18 || db1+2 || 16 || Launch || Leroy df2,1+2
+| b+2,2 || i13 || 2.43 || 22 || -3/-22<ref name="duckable>Duckable high.</ref> || Mid
-|}
-{| class="wikitable"
-|+ Back-turned opponent
 |-
-! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]]
+| df+1,2 || i14 || 2.29 || 28 || -10 || Mid
 |-
-| -13 || b2,2,4,4 || 58 || KND
+| uf+4 || i15 || 2.44 || 20 ([[Bob combos#Staples|?]]) || -9 || High
 |-
-| -20 || uf2,3,3+4 || 38 || Launch
+| d+2,4 || i15 || 2.88 || 33 || -13 || Mid
-|}
-{| class="wikitable"
-|+ Grounded opponent
 |-
-! Enemy !! Move !! Damage !! [[Movelist#Hit|Frames]] !!
+| uf+1+2,1+2 || i16 || 3.18 || 40 || -17<ref name="uf12-risk">uf+1+2 extensions can be delayed a lot for a [[hit confirm]], and opponent has to guess mid/high to get a [[punish]].</ref> || Mid
 |-
-| -17 || b3 || 20 || KND || Ch launches getup kicks
+| uf+1+2,4 || i16 || 3.18 || 35 || -1/-28<ref name="duckable/><ref name="uf12-risk"/> || Mid
 |-
-| -18 || d1 || 18 || +7 || Safe unlike the launch punishable b3. CH knockdown for guaranteed b3
+| db+1+2 || i18 || 2.90 || 16 ([[Bob combos#Staples|?]]) || -13 || Mid
 |}
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