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* Gains guard breaking moves.
* Gains guard breaking moves.
* Deathfist launches and wallsplats.}}
* Phoenix Smasher and other related moves wall splat from further away and are safer on block.
* A charged Hammer of the Gods and Crushing Wind launch on regular hit.}}
|heatSmash=Low, i18, {{MoveGet|Paul-H.2+3|block}}
|heatSmash=Low, i18, {{MoveGet|Paul-H.2+3|block}}
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|stances=|stances={{Plainlist|
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* Sway - qcf
* Sway (SWA) - qcf
* Backsway - qcb
* Backsway (BSW) - qcb
* Deep Dive (DPD) - qcf (or qcb), df
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|launch={{Plainlist|
|launch={{Plainlist|
* i14 – b+2
* i14 – b+3 ''(high)''
* i15 – df+2}}
* i15 – df+2, uf+4, uf+3,4 ''(mid)''
* i15 – WS2 ''(crouching)''}}
|chLaunch={{Plainlist|
|chLaunch={{Plainlist|
* i15 – qcb+4 ''(mid)''
* i15 (~17) – qcb+4 ''(high)''
* i21 (~23) – qcb+1 ''(mid)''
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|splat={{Plainlist|
* i10 – 2,3 ''(CH only)''
* i12 – b+1,2, d+1+2 ''(standing)''
* i13 – WS3,2 ''(crouching)''
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* ws4  ''(crouching)''}}
* ws4  ''(crouching)''}}
|powerLow=d4,2,1+2
|powerLow=d4,2,1+2
|lore=[[https://tekken.fandom.com/wiki/Paul_Phoenix|Paul Phoenix]]
|remappedGenerics={{Plainlist|
* d+1 → db+1
* d+4 → db+4}}
|lore=[[fandom:Paul Phoenix|Paul Phoenix]]
|twitter=T8_Paul
|twitter=T8_Paul
|discord=[https://discord.gg/sKY7Yeh TOP CONDITION OSU!]
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{{See other}}
{{See other}}


'''Paul''' Phoenix is a strong, fundamentally sound character that can easily be mistaken as an overpowering, damage output machine. While he is capable of eye-watering damage, his greatest strength is in his ability to shutdown aggression, due to his toolkit being both extremely compact while also being built around blowing up opponents for mashing or not being precise with their dashblocking.
'''Paul''' Phoenix is a strong, fundamentally sound character who is often mistaken as an overpowering damage output machine. While he is capable of eye-watering damage, his greatest strength is in his ability to shutdown aggression, due to his toolkit being both extremely compact while also being built around blowing up opponents for mashing or not being precise with their [[Dash_block|dashblocking]].


His df+2 is a very compact launcher with deceptively quick recovery that excels at clipping overconfident approaches, and his extensions out of df+1 that utilize his backsway (SWA) are great keepout tools against any opponent that wants to pressure after blocking a df+1. Moves like df+1,1, b+2,1, 3,2, and d+1,4 can be delayed to further complicate the gameplans of aggressive opponents, as well as f+1+4, which is a shoulder tackle that almost instantly shifts Paul 90° to the side for a knockdown and good damage.
His df+2 is a very compact launcher with deceptively quick recovery that excels at clipping overconfident approaches, and his extensions out of df+1 that utilize his backsway (SWA) are great keepout tools against any opponent that wants to pressure after blocking a df+1. Moves like df+1,1, b+2,1, 3,2, and d+1,2 can be delayed to further complicate the gameplans of aggressive opponents, as well as f+1+4, which is a shoulder tackle that almost instantly shifts Paul 90° to the side for a knockdown and good damage.


Furthermore, Deathfist (qcf+2) and Demoman (d+4,2:1+2) make up one of Tekken's all-time classic mixups. Deathfist is a fast, astonishingly high damage whiff punish tool that becomes even more powerful in Heat, and Demoman is a just-barely-reactable i26~i27, L,m,m string that does great damage and knocks down. Compounding this already potent mixup, he is one of the select few characters with a Heat Smash that hits low, giving Paul an even more terrifying mixup while in Heat.
Furthermore, Phoenix Smasher (qcf+2, also colloquially known as Deathfist) and Demoman (d+4,2:1+2) make up one of Tekken's all-time classic [[Mixup|mixups]]. Deathfist is an astonishingly high damage whiff punish tool that hits mid, and becomes even more powerful in [[Heat]]. Demoman is a low string that does great damage and knocks down, while also being unreactable. Compounding this already potent mixup, he is one of the select few characters with a Heat Smash that also hits low, giving Paul an even more terrifying mixup while in Heat.


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* Massive Wall Combo Damage
* Explosive damage potential
* Unexpectedly Evasive (Sway Plus on Block Setups/Crouch Dash)
* Great punishment suite, wall splatting at i12 standing or i13 crouching, can launch from standing at i14 or i13 during Heat
* Safe Launchers (DF2 and B3)
* Excellent keepout with qcb+4, qcb+2, and df+2
* Low Heat Smash
* Several panic moves in f+1+4, d+1+2, bf+1, db+1+2, uf+3,4, and parry
* Retains qcb+4 and qcb+1 as CH launchers that don't give up his turn
* Incredible mixup potential in df+1 and WS1,2 and their extensions/stance transitions, as well as pressuring at the wall
* Complete throw game along with the exceedingly rare Ultimate Tackle
* All Heat Engagers launch on Heat Dash
* Heat gives him farther wallsplats and relative safety for Deathfisting moves as well as the ability to guard break, and low Heat Smash is only -12 on block
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* Very Steppable Key Moves
* Weak tracking, especially to SSR, demanding good reads on timing
* Vulnerable to Strong Keep Out
* Exploitable strings outside df+1 and WS1,2
* High Damage Non-Wall Combos are High Execution (QCF1 loops ect)
* Struggles punishing moves with pushback
* Subpar lows
* Requires decent execution for optimal damage and movement due to motion inputs
* Less reward off smaller punishes, making safer characters a rough matchup
* Can't do a backflip :(
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{{KeyTechs|
{{KeyTechs|
{{KeyTech|QCF1 Execution|Importance=4|Value=5|Dexterity=4|Rhythm=4}}
{{KeyTech|Just Frame Demoman|importance=3|value=2|dexterity=1|rhythm=3}}
{{KeyTech|QCF1 Execution|importance=3|value=2|dexterity=3|rhythm=4}}
{{KeyTech|Deathfist Block Punish|importance=3|value=4|dexterity=3|rhythm=4}}
{{KeyTech|Sway Cancel Deathfist|importance=3|value=5|dexterity=4|rhythm=4}}
{{KeyTech|Instant WR2|importance=3|value=2|dexterity=3|rhythm=2}}
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{{PunishmentChart|Paul}}
 
== Punishes ==
 
=== Standing ===
i10 - 1, 2, 3 -  24 DMG high - Panic punish
 
i12 - B 1, 2 - 33 DMG high - #wallbreak, #tornado - Sets up wall combos
 
i12 - D 1+2 - 30 DMG mid - #wallbreak
 
i14 - B3 - 16 DMG high - #safeOB #launcher
 
i14 - F2 - 40 DMG high - #heatEngager
 
i15 - DF2 - 13 DMG mid - #highCrush #safeOB #launcher #standingOnly
 
=== While Standing ===
i11 - WS4 - 18 DMG mid
 
i13 - WS3, 2 - 37 DMG mid #wallbreak
 
i15 - WS2 - 20 DMG mid - #launcher
 
 
=== Wiff Punishes ===
i13 QCF2 - 45 DMG #wallbreak #heatEngager #unsafe #uhhhhaa
 
i15 QCB2 - 27 DMG #wallbreak #heatEngager #safeOB
 
i15 DF2 - 13 DMG -  High Crush , #safeOB #launcher
 
i27 FF4 - 20 DMG - #launcher #safeOB
 
i28 BF1 > DB2 - 38 DMG #safeOB
 
== Pokes ==
 
i14 DF1,b - 11 DMG  - #PLUSOB #SWAY - Best way to pressure with sway
 
i15 3,1,b - 31 DMG - #stringGapPunishable #PLUSOB #SWAY - longer range than DF1,b to engage into sway pressure
 
i15 QCB2 - 27 DMG  - #safeOB #heatEngager - Natural follow-up for any of the sway pokes
 
i18 QCF 3 - 18 DMG - #chLauncher #unsafe
 
=== At wall: ===
i15 D4,2,1+2 - 38 DMG  #unsafe #launchPunishable #wallbreak - Demoman :)
 
i19 CH SS3 > D1+2 - #unsafe
 
i22 QCB1 - 24 DMG - #chipDMG #forceCrouch #safeOB
 
at wall on hit > DB2 - 40 DMG
 
 
== Frame Traps ==
 
=== Setup moves: ===
i12 DF1+3 (throw +9/ -2 ob)
 
i12 DF1,b (+3ob/+9oh)
 
i15 SWA4 (+1ob)
 
i22 UF2 (+5ob)
 
i20 SS1 (+8ob)
 
=== Samples ===
==== Safe ====
i15 SWA4 (+1 ob) > 1,2 (-3 ob)  - 18 DMG
 
i20 SS1 (+8 ob) > QCF 1(-4 ob, #launcher) -21 DMG
 
i22 UF2 (+5 ob) > B3 (-9 ob, #launcher) - 19 DMG
 
==== Unsafe ====
i15 SWA4 (+1 ob) >!i10 1,2,3(-25 ob) can be hit confirmed - 25 DMG
 
i20 SS1 (+8 ob) > QCB1+2(-14 ob, #launcher)
 
 
== Grabs ==
11i - B 1+4 -  40 DMG  - 1 break
 
i12 UF1+2 - 40 DMG - #floorbreak - 1+2 break
 
i12 FF1+2 - 38 DMG - #wallbreak  - 1+2 break
 
i12 2+4 B hold - 40 DMG - 2 break
 
i12 DF1+3 - 22 DMG - +9 trap setup - 1 break
 
in heat DF1+3 > QCF 2 - 43 DMG - #wallbreak #uhhhhaa
 
Takedown.2,​d+1,​1,​1+2 -50 DMG  - 1 break
 
Takedown.1+2,1+2 - 25 DMG - 1+2 break
 
 
== Combo Theory: ==
 
- Highest execution is to add as many QCF1s as possible into a combo for max wall travel and damage.
 
 
- Enders are FFF2 for damage in open ground and floor break, D4,2,1+2 for wall travel and wall breaks.
 
 
=== Sample Combos ===
 
==== Low Execution: ====
62 DMG - DF2 > 3,1 > 3,1,b > SWA1+2 > FFF2 #floorbreak
 
63 DMG  - DF2 > DF4 > 1 > DF4 > 3,1,b > SWA1+2 > FFF2 #floorbreak
 
74 DMG - QCF1 > DF4 > DF1 > DF4 >3,1,b > SWA1+2  > FFF2 #floorbreak
 
76 DMG - QCB1+2 > QCF1 > DF4 >3,1,b > SWA1+2  > FFF2 #floorbreak
 
==== High Execution: ====
75 DMG - QCF1 >QCF1 > DF4 3,1,b > SWA1+2  > FFF2 #floorbreak
 
==== Walls====
85 DMG FF1,2 > FF3,4 > B1,2 > 1 >QCF2 #uhhhhaa
 
=== Heat ===
tbd
 


== External links ==
== External links ==


* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F1dgW24nLM Paul 8 minute guide by TheMainManSWE]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F1dgW24nLM TEKKEN 8 In Eight Minutes | Paul Phoenix Guide] by TheMainManSWE
 
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CChX2GMUPfc Paul Guide] by Joey Fury
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CChX2GMUPfc Joey Fury's Paul Guide]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZrVy4ys6OY Paul Phoenix Combo Guide | TEKKEN 8] by RyzingSol
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io6vfBZJxac&list=PLz6d25-hHxIBvzuLPyKqyEw48Cb9Z19PH Various Paul Guides] by onepunchmanPaul


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Latest revision as of 11:02, 1 October 2024

Paul
Paul
Heat
  • Gains guard breaking moves.
  • Phoenix Smasher and other related moves wall splat from further away and are safer on block.
  • A charged Hammer of the Gods and Crushing Wind launch on regular hit.
Heat Smash Low, i18, -12
Heat Engagers
  • uf+2
  • qcf+2
  • f+4
  • qcb+2
  • f+2
Stances
  • Sway (SWA) - qcf
  • Backsway (BSW) - qcb
  • Deep Dive (DPD) - qcf (or qcb), df
Fastest
Launch
  • i14 – b+3 (high)
  • i15 – df+2, uf+4, uf+3,4 (mid)
  • i15 – WS2 (crouching)
CH launch
  • i15 (~17) – qcb+4 (high)
  • i21 (~23) – qcb+1 (mid)
Wall splat
  • i10 – 2,3 (CH only)
  • i12 – b+1,2, d+1+2 (standing)
  • i13 – WS3,2 (crouching)
Archetypal moves
Parry
  • b+1+3 (high or mid attacks)
Mid check
  • df+1 (standing)
  • ws4 (crouching)
Power low d4,2,1+2
Generic moves
Remapped
  • d+1 → db+1
  • d+4 → db+4
Missing (none)
External links
Lore Paul Phoenix
Twitter #T8_Paul
Discord TOP CONDITION OSU!

This page is for Tekken 8. For Tekken 7, see Paul (Tekken 7).

Paul Phoenix is a strong, fundamentally sound character who is often mistaken as an overpowering damage output machine. While he is capable of eye-watering damage, his greatest strength is in his ability to shutdown aggression, due to his toolkit being both extremely compact while also being built around blowing up opponents for mashing or not being precise with their dashblocking.

His df+2 is a very compact launcher with deceptively quick recovery that excels at clipping overconfident approaches, and his extensions out of df+1 that utilize his backsway (SWA) are great keepout tools against any opponent that wants to pressure after blocking a df+1. Moves like df+1,1, b+2,1, 3,2, and d+1,2 can be delayed to further complicate the gameplans of aggressive opponents, as well as f+1+4, which is a shoulder tackle that almost instantly shifts Paul 90° to the side for a knockdown and good damage.

Furthermore, Phoenix Smasher (qcf+2, also colloquially known as Deathfist) and Demoman (d+4,2:1+2) make up one of Tekken's all-time classic mixups. Deathfist is an astonishingly high damage whiff punish tool that hits mid, and becomes even more powerful in Heat. Demoman is a low string that does great damage and knocks down, while also being unreactable. Compounding this already potent mixup, he is one of the select few characters with a Heat Smash that also hits low, giving Paul an even more terrifying mixup while in Heat.

Strengths
  • Explosive damage potential
  • Great punishment suite, wall splatting at i12 standing or i13 crouching, can launch from standing at i14 or i13 during Heat
  • Excellent keepout with qcb+4, qcb+2, and df+2
  • Several panic moves in f+1+4, d+1+2, bf+1, db+1+2, uf+3,4, and parry
  • Retains qcb+4 and qcb+1 as CH launchers that don't give up his turn
  • Incredible mixup potential in df+1 and WS1,2 and their extensions/stance transitions, as well as pressuring at the wall
  • Complete throw game along with the exceedingly rare Ultimate Tackle
  • All Heat Engagers launch on Heat Dash
  • Heat gives him farther wallsplats and relative safety for Deathfisting moves as well as the ability to guard break, and low Heat Smash is only -12 on block
Weaknesses
  • Weak tracking, especially to SSR, demanding good reads on timing
  • Exploitable strings outside df+1 and WS1,2
  • Struggles punishing moves with pushback
  • Requires decent execution for optimal damage and movement due to motion inputs
  • Less reward off smaller punishes, making safer characters a rough matchup
  • Can't do a backflip :(
Just Frame Demoman
importance
★★★☆☆
value
★★☆☆☆
dexterity
★☆☆☆☆
rhythm
★★★☆☆
QCF1 Execution
importance
★★★☆☆
value
★★☆☆☆
dexterity
★★★☆☆
rhythm
★★★★☆
Deathfist Block Punish
importance
★★★☆☆
value
★★★★☆
dexterity
★★★☆☆
rhythm
★★★★☆
Sway Cancel Deathfist
importance
★★★☆☆
value
★★★★★
dexterity
★★★★☆
rhythm
★★★★☆
Instant WR2
importance
★★★☆☆
value
★★☆☆☆
dexterity
★★★☆☆
rhythm
★★☆☆☆


Standing punishment
-10
24
-11
24
-12
33
-13
38
-14
76
-15
79
-16
79
-18
88
79
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
40
45
50
55
60
65
70
75
80
85
90
Crouching punishment
-10
5
-11
18
-12
18
-13
37
-14
38
-15
80
-18
88
80
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
40
45
50
55
60
65
70
75
80
85
90
 Median
Short range
Hard
Wall
Meter/Rage

External links

Characters (Tekken 8)
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