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Lili

Heat	Empowered Feisty Rabbit low Empowered f,F+3+4 (and other Piercing Thorn moves)
Heat Smash	High, i23, +9 (stanceless) Low, i16, -8 (back turn)
Heat Engagers	3,1 3+4 qcf+2,1 BT.1,4 b3 or B4,2
Stances	BT (Back Turn) - b+3+4 DEW (Dew Glide) - qcf RAB (Feisty Rabbit) - b+3 or b+4
Fastest
Launch	i15 – uf+3 (standing) i15 – ws3 (crouching) i13 – bt1+2 (back turn)
CH launch	{{{chLaunch}}}
Wall splat	i10 – 2,4 (standing) i14 – FC.df+1 (crouching)
Archetypal moves
Mid check	df+1 (standing) df+4 (standing) ws+4 (crouching)
Hopkick	uf+3
Stature kick	d+3
Snake edge	db+4
Generic moves
Remapped	d+1 → db+1
Missing	d+2
External links
Lore	Lili de Rochefort
Twitter	#T8_Lili
Discord	♛ Lili's Mansion ♛ ~🌺Lili de Rochefort Estate🌺~

This page is for Tekken 8. For Tekken 7, see Lili (Tekken 7).

Lili is a versatile character with good generics, ample plus frame pressure, and the best sidestep in the game. Her strong movement and space control make her extremely difficult to pin down, and she can punish all kinds of situations with her array of damaging whiff punish launchers and quick punishment tools. With these things in mind, opponents will hesitate to press mindlessly, allowing her to approach with plus frames or mixups out of her Feisty Rabbit and backturn (BT) stances. Heat makes her pressure and mixups even more threatening, with access to arguably the best low Heat Smash in the game if she's able to get into BT. She also has good mid checks, strong oki and a terrifying wall game with many safe wall splats.

All of these strengths come at a pretty glaring cost: despite being the queen of sidesteps, Lili is prone to getting sidestepped herself, and lacks effective tracking on almost all of her moves. Her homing options tend to be highly lacking in speed and/or range. Her BT pressure is also interruptible by mid checks on block, and her lows outside of BT pose little threat damage-wise.

Strengths

The best sidestep in the game, allowing her to escape situations others can't
Strong close-range poking, generic tools, and confirmable strings
Solid plus moves and fantastic wallsplats that greatly aid her pressure
Good oki with lots of moves that hit grounded
The safest low Heat Smash in the game

Weaknesses

Linear moves and poor homing attacks
Short range on most reliable pokes and checks
Lows do little damage, limited mix without BT setups and/or Heat
Slow and crouchable Heat Smash outside of BT
Risky Heat Engagers

Key techniques

Sidestepping

importance

★★★★☆

value

★★★★★

dexterity

★☆☆☆☆

rhythm

★★☆☆☆

Instant Sidewalking

importance

★☆☆☆☆

value

★★★★★

dexterity

★★★☆☆

rhythm

★★★★☆

Dew Glide Cancels

importance

★★★☆☆

value

★★★★☆

dexterity

★★★☆☆

rhythm

★★★★☆

External links

Lili Optimal Combo Guide | TEKKEN 8 by TheFURY
Lili Guide by Fergus2k8
Lili Combo Guide | TEKKEN 8 by RyzingSol

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 |name=Lili
 |twitter=T8_Lili
-|discord=[https://discord.gg/pFKBKXK ~🌺Lili de Rochefort Estate🌺~]
+|discord={{Plainlist|
+* [https://discord.gg/DbJKj5zS7a ♛ Lili's Mansion ♛]
+* [https://discord.gg/pFKBKXK ~🌺Lili de Rochefort Estate🌺~]}}
 |heat={{Plainlist|
 *Empowered Feisty Rabbit low
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 *BT.1,4
 *b3 or B4,2}}
-|stances=|stances={{Plainlist|
+|stances={{Plainlist|
 * BT ''(Back Turn)'' - b+3+4
 * DEW ''(Dew Glide)'' - qcf
-* RAB ''(Feisty Rabbit)'' - b+3 or b+4
+* RAB ''(Feisty Rabbit)'' - b+3 or b+4}}
-}}
+|launch={{Plainlist|
+* i15 &ndash; uf+3 ''(standing)''
+* i15 &ndash; ws3 ''(crouching)''
+* i13 &ndash; bt1+2 ''(back turn)''}}
+|CH launch={{Plainlist|
+* i17 &ndash; f+4}}
+|splat={{Plainlist|
+* i10 &ndash; 2,4 ''(standing)''
+* i14 &ndash; FC.df+1 ''(crouching)''}}
 |midCheck={{Plainlist|
 * df+1 ''(standing)''
+* df+4 ''(standing)''
+* ws+4 ''(crouching)''
 }}
-|hopkick={{Plainlist|
+|hopkick=uf+3
-* uf+3 ''(standing)''
+|statureKick=d+3
-}}
+|snakeEdge=db+4
-|statureKick={{Plainlist|
+|remappedGenerics=d+1 → db+1
-* d+3
+|missingGenerics=d+2
-}}
 |lore=[[fandom:Emilie_de_Rochefort|Lili de Rochefort]]
 }}
 {{See other}}
-'''Lili''' is a solid, well-rounded character with good generics, pressure, mixups and the best sidestep in the game. Her powerful sidestep and space control make her extremely difficult to pin down, and she can punish whiffs with a strong and consistent punishment kit. Her evasiveness makes an opponent hesitate to press, allowing her to go in with solid plus frame pressure and mixups out of her backturned (BT) stance. [[Heat]] makes her pressure and mixups even more threatening, with access to arguably the best low Heat Smash in the game. She also has decent counterhits, strong oki and a terrifying wall game, with many safe wall splats. All of this, along with high combo damage and low execution requirements outside of qcf motions, make her a very well-rounded, approachable and effective character to pick up.
+'''Lili''' is a versatile character with good generics, ample plus frame pressure, and the best sidestep in the game. Her strong movement and space control make her extremely difficult to pin down, and she can punish all kinds of situations with her array of damaging whiff punish launchers and quick punishment tools. With these things in mind, opponents will hesitate to press mindlessly, allowing her to approach with plus frames or mixups out of her Feisty Rabbit and [[backturn]] (BT) stances. [[Heat]] makes her pressure and mixups even more threatening, with access to arguably the best low Heat Smash in the game if she's able to get into BT. She also has good mid checks, strong oki and a terrifying wall game with many safe wall splats.
-Despite being the queen of sidesteps, Lili is somewhat prone to getting sidestepped herself, and lacks effective tracking on her pokes. Her homing moves are on the slower side, which opesn her up to getting counterhit. Her pressure is also similarly easy to interrupt if she hasn't adequately conditioned her opponents.
+All of these strengths come at a pretty glaring cost: despite being the queen of sidesteps, Lili is prone to getting sidestepped herself, and lacks effective tracking on almost all of her moves. Her homing options tend to be highly lacking in speed and/or range. Her BT pressure is also interruptible by mid checks on block, and her lows outside of BT pose little threat damage-wise.
 {{BlueRed
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 |blue=
-* Best sidestep in the game
+* The best sidestep in the game, allowing her to escape situations others can't
-* Strong generic tools, mid checks, and confirmable strings
+* Strong close-range poking, generic tools, and [[Hit confirm|confirmable]] strings
-* Excellent plus frame pressure
+* Solid plus moves and fantastic [[wallsplat]]s that greatly aid her pressure
-* One of the best oki tools with qcf+3
+* Good oki with lots of moves that hit grounded
-* Arguably the best low heat smash in the game
+* The safest low [[Heat Smash]] in the game
 |red=
-* Her stronger moves are a bit slow, prone to CH
+* [[Linear]] moves and poor homing attacks
-* Slow and crouchable heat smash outside of BT
+* Short range on most reliable pokes and checks
-* Weak tracking
+* Lows do little damage, limited mix without [[BT]] setups and/or Heat
+* Slow and crouchable [[Heat Smash]] outside of [[BT]]
+* Risky [[Heat Engager]]s
 }}
 {{KeyTechs|
-{{KeyTech|Sidestepping|importance=4|value=4|dexterity=2|rhythm=4}}
+{{KeyTech|Sidestepping|importance=4|value=5|dexterity=1|rhythm=2}}
-{{KeyTech|Dew Glide Cancels|importance=3|value=4|dexterity=3|rhythm=4}}
+{{KeyTech|[[Lili_tech#Instant_Sidewalk|Instant Sidewalking]]|importance=1|value=5|dexterity=3|rhythm=4}}
+{{KeyTech|[[Lili_tech#Dew_Glide_Cancelling|Dew Glide Cancels]]|importance=3|value=4|dexterity=3|rhythm=4}}
 }}
 == External links ==
-* [http://example.com http://example.com]
+* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVaUYeJ0xyU Lili Optimal Combo Guide | TEKKEN 8] by TheFURY
+* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW1_-baQhw0 Lili Guide] by Fergus2k8
+* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prCkFWAyJN8 Lili Combo Guide | TEKKEN 8] by RyzingSol
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