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|launch=i14 – [[Electric Wind God Fist|EWGF]]
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* WS i14 – ws1,4 ''(mid,high)''
* WS i13 – ws1,4 ''(mid,high)''
* i12ย  – b+1,2 ''(high,mid)''}}
* i12ย  – b+1,2 ''(high,mid)''}}
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* Simple [[neutral]] plan: [[EWGF]] for keepout and whiff punishment, uf+4 and CD.4 for [[mixup]]
* Simple [[neutral]] plan: [[EWGF]] for keepout and whiff punishment, uf+4 and CD.4 for [[mixup]]
* Flexible toolbox that allows him to adapt to the opponent (deathmatch monster)
* Strong whiff and block punishment, standing and from crouch.
* Doesn't need to block punish -15 moves with EWGF (can do d+3+4)
* Doesn't need to block punish -15 moves with EWGF (can do d+3+4)
* Strong panic moves (u+4, b+1+3)
* Strong panic move in u+4 which is also very hard to punish
* Absurd wall pressure (f+1+2, f,F+2)
* Absurd wall pressure (f+1+2, f,F+2)
* Safe mid extensions on key mid pokes (ws1, df+1)
* Safe mid extensions on key mid pokes (ws1, df+1)
* Fast mid homing option (b,f+2)
* Laser scraper (b,f+2) covers his weak side
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* Weak to SSL
* Execution barrier behind some key techniques
* Execution barrier behind some key techniques
* Mediocre jab hitbox
* ws2 gives a bad combo
* ws2 gives a bad combo
* No safe mid launcher
* Slow/weak CH game
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{{KeyTech|EWGF block punish -14
{{KeyTech|EWGF block punish -14
|importance=1|dexterity=5|rhythm=5|value=5}}
|importance=1|dexterity=5|rhythm=5|value=5}}
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{{KeyTech|2xEWGF into f,f+4
|importance=2|dexterity=2|rhythm=3|value=3}}
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Revision as of 09:04, 1 September 2022

Devil Jin
Heat {{{heat}}}
Heat Smash {{{heatSmash}}}
Heat Engagers {{{heatEngagers}}}
Stances
  • FLY โ€“ 3+4
Fastest
Launch i14 – EWGF
CH launch
  • i15 – df+2 (mid)
Wall splat
  • WS i13 – ws1,4 (mid,high)
  • i12 – b+1,2 (high,mid)
Archetypal moves
Mid check {{{midCheck}}}
Generic moves
Remapped (none)
Missing (none)
External links
Lore {{{lore}}}
Twitter #{{{twitter}}}

PokeMixupKeepoutWhiff punishOkizemePressureDefenseTricky

Devil Jin is the most well-rounded mishimaโ€”that is to say he has all of their strengths with none of their weaknesses. There is no tool he lacks, and on top of being a jack-of-all-trades his options are often best-in-class.

He's unique in having an unreactable low launcher from standing that leads to a full juggle. (The only other comparable moves are Jin's CD.4 which can't get a wall combo and is borderline reactable, and Anna's FC.df+2~1 which is done from crouch.) This makes all of his mid pokes much stronger than they appear, since the opponent has to duck a lot more than usual.

Strengths
  • Simple neutral plan: EWGF for keepout and whiff punishment, uf+4 and CD.4 for mixup
  • Flexible toolbox that allows him to adapt to the opponent (deathmatch monster)
  • Strong whiff and block punishment, standing and from crouch.
  • Doesn't need to block punish -15 moves with EWGF (can do d+3+4)
  • Strong panic move in u+4 which is also very hard to punish
  • Absurd wall pressure (f+1+2, f,F+2)
  • Safe mid extensions on key mid pokes (ws1, df+1)
  • Laser scraper (b,f+2) covers his weak side
Weaknesses
  • Weak to SSL
  • Execution barrier behind some key techniques
  • ws2 gives a bad combo
  • No safe mid launcher
  • Slow/weak CH game
EWGF in neutral
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dexterity
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rhythm
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Fast b,f+2 (Laser Scraper)
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df+1,2 dash cancel
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iWS from crouch dash
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Dash jab juggles
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rhythm
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EWGF block punish -15
importance
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rhythm
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EWGF block punish -14
importance
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2xEWGF into f,f+4
importance
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rhythm
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External links

  • Basics guide by Xiang Part 1, Part 2, Part 3
  • Full Guide on Devil Jin with in-deep-discussion by Cassan [1]