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* [[Mishima]]:Access to the standard Mishima toolkit, including the [[EWGF]] (cd2), Flash Punch Combo (1,1,2), Hellsweep (cd4), and Demon Paw (f, | * '''[[Mishima]]''': Access to the standard Mishima toolkit, including the [[EWGF]] (cd2), Flash Punch Combo (1,1,2), [[Standard_move#Hellsweep|Hellsweep]] (cd4), and Demon Paw (f,F+2). | ||
* Demon's Spear (db+1+2) | * '''Demon's Spear (db+1+2)''': Devil's Jin's best unique move. It is a chargeable mid that Guard Breaks on full charge for a guaranteed Flash Punch Combo, but also Wall Crushes on a partial charge giving Devil Jin's well above average wall pressure. | ||
* | * '''Okizeme''': Great Okizeme with Demon's Steel Pedal (b+4), Hellfire Incinerator (d+1+2), the previously mentioned Demon's Spear (db+1+2), which can catch rolls, but also be cancelled into Mourning Crow for Venomous Torment (MCR.3), a safe 26 damage if they stay on the ground. | ||
* Compared with Kazuya, he has access to a better Power Crush with Corpse Thrust (d+1), another functional panic tool in Imperial Wrath (b+1+3 or b+2+4), an easy standing normal hit 15f launcher with Double Lift Kicks (d+3+4), and has more moves that either high or low crush. | * '''Block Punishing & Panic Tools''': Compared with Kazuya, he has access to a better Power Crush with Corpse Thrust (d+1), another functional panic tool in Imperial Wrath (b+1+3 or b+2+4), an easy standing normal hit 15f launcher with Double Lift Kicks (d+3+4), and has more moves that either high or low crush. | ||
* Has access to a complete set of command throws (1,2, & 1+2 break). | * '''Fast Approach''': Between Demon's Shaft (f,F+4), Demon's Tail (cd3), Hisou (uf+3+4), Leaping Side Kick (f,f,F+3), and the entire Mourning Crow stance, Devil Jin does not lack in options to get to his opponent. | ||
* '''Complete Throw Game''': Has access to a complete set of command throws (1,2, & 1+2 break). | |||
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* Lacks notable lows outside of his Hellsweep, meaning there is typically very little reason to crouch against him. | * '''Limited Lows''': Lacks notable lows outside of his Hellsweep, meaning there is typically very little reason to crouch against him. | ||
* Generally limited generic tools, including having potentially the worst 13f df+1 (Dark Twin Lancer) in the game, but one he must use anyways. | * '''Iffy Generic Tools''': Generally limited generic tools, including having potentially the worst 13f df+1 (Dark Twin Lancer) in the game, but one he must use anyways. | ||
* While Devil Jin has many great highs, his mids are generally lackluster and any that seem good are horrifically negative on block. If Devil Jin finishes any string odds are he is launch punishable. | * '''Mediocre Mids''': While Devil Jin has many great highs, his mids are generally lackluster and any that seem good are horrifically negative on block. If Devil Jin finishes any string odds are he is launch punishable. | ||
* Most of Devil Jin's damage comes from combos. This means opponents are typically left with vast amounts of recoverable health, and he lacks the ability to easily remove that health unlike Nina, Dragunov, Kuma, etc. | * '''Can't Deal with Gray Health''': Most of Devil Jin's damage comes from combos. This means opponents are typically left with vast amounts of recoverable health, and he lacks the ability to easily remove that health unlike Nina, Dragunov, Kuma, etc. | ||
* Unless entered with a hit uf+1 (Infernal Shackle) or a CH df+2 (Bloody Glaive) Mourning Crow stance is easily beaten by standing opponents with Power Crushes or Devil Jin can be floated out of it with jabs, leading to a full combo. | * '''Unsafe Stance''': Unless entered with a hit uf+1 (Infernal Shackle) or a CH df+2 (Bloody Glaive) Mourning Crow stance is easily beaten by standing opponents with Power Crushes or Devil Jin can be floated out of it with jabs, leading to a full combo. | ||
* Devil Jin's Tekken 8 additions are mostly gimmicky, and the more knowledgeable the opponent the worse they get. High level Devil Jin play often boils down to just whiff punishing with EWGF, block punishing with Flash Punch Combo, and otherwise using the Mishima | * '''Gimmicky''': Devil Jin's Tekken 8 additions are mostly gimmicky, and the more knowledgeable the opponent the worse they get. High level Devil Jin play often boils down to just whiff punishing with EWGF, block punishing with Flash Punch Combo, and otherwise using the Mishima wave dash to alternate between the Hellsweep and WS2 (Alaya), which is -12 on block and tricky to pull off out of a wavedash. | ||
* As long as opponents hold back, can break the occasional throw, and sometimes block a Hellsweep, Devil Jin has a very limited ability to open them up and relies on reads more than maybe any other character. | * '''Loses to Patience''': As long as opponents hold back, can break the occasional throw, and sometimes block a Hellsweep, Devil Jin has a very limited ability to open them up and relies on reads more than maybe any other character. | ||
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| Heat Smash | H.2+3 mid - i18-28 - +11 (MCR)
H.MCR.2+3 throw - i20 |
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| Power low | f,n,d,df+4,1+2 |
| Shadow cutter | db+2 |
| Slash kick | f,f,F+3 |
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| Remapped | (none) |
| Missing | d+1 |
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| Lore | Devil Jin |
| #T8_DevilJin | |
| Discord | Devil Jin |
This page is for Tekken 8. For Tekken 7, see Devil Jin (Tekken 7).
Devil Jin is a versatile, Mishima-style character with many gap-closing tools, excellent Okizeme, a completely throw game, good block and whiff punishment tools, good wall pressure, and great combo damage. He benefits heavily from Mishima-fundamental skills and reading the opponent. Devil Jin can be played aggressively in the opponent's face at all times thanks to his wavedash mixup, or more defensively with his wide array of whiff punishers. A well-timed read on a downed opponent can lead to extreme levels of Okizeme damage.
Devil Jin's weaknesses are with his poor generic tools - his jab has poor range, and his df+1 is quite bad on block. He is the most demanding Mishima from an execution standpoint. He is the only EWGF user who still has to use the full input (f,n,df+2), you need to learn iWS2 (Alaya) to have a functional wave dash mixup, and and you need to take advantage of a trick with WS3 (Organ Wrecker) in order to get good damage with his combos. He also lacks any power lows outside of his Hellsweep, meaning a patient opponent can often counter Devil Jin by just holding back.
Strengths
- Mishima: Access to the standard Mishima toolkit, including the EWGF (cd2), Flash Punch Combo (1,1,2), Hellsweep (cd4), and Demon Paw (f,F+2).
- Demon's Spear (db+1+2): Devil's Jin's best unique move. It is a chargeable mid that Guard Breaks on full charge for a guaranteed Flash Punch Combo, but also Wall Crushes on a partial charge giving Devil Jin's well above average wall pressure.
- Okizeme: Great Okizeme with Demon's Steel Pedal (b+4), Hellfire Incinerator (d+1+2), the previously mentioned Demon's Spear (db+1+2), which can catch rolls, but also be cancelled into Mourning Crow for Venomous Torment (MCR.3), a safe 26 damage if they stay on the ground.
- Block Punishing & Panic Tools: Compared with Kazuya, he has access to a better Power Crush with Corpse Thrust (d+1), another functional panic tool in Imperial Wrath (b+1+3 or b+2+4), an easy standing normal hit 15f launcher with Double Lift Kicks (d+3+4), and has more moves that either high or low crush.
- Fast Approach: Between Demon's Shaft (f,F+4), Demon's Tail (cd3), Hisou (uf+3+4), Leaping Side Kick (f,f,F+3), and the entire Mourning Crow stance, Devil Jin does not lack in options to get to his opponent.
- Complete Throw Game: Has access to a complete set of command throws (1,2, & 1+2 break).
Weaknesses
- Limited Lows: Lacks notable lows outside of his Hellsweep, meaning there is typically very little reason to crouch against him.
- Iffy Generic Tools: Generally limited generic tools, including having potentially the worst 13f df+1 (Dark Twin Lancer) in the game, but one he must use anyways.
- Mediocre Mids: While Devil Jin has many great highs, his mids are generally lackluster and any that seem good are horrifically negative on block. If Devil Jin finishes any string odds are he is launch punishable.
- Can't Deal with Gray Health: Most of Devil Jin's damage comes from combos. This means opponents are typically left with vast amounts of recoverable health, and he lacks the ability to easily remove that health unlike Nina, Dragunov, Kuma, etc.
- Unsafe Stance: Unless entered with a hit uf+1 (Infernal Shackle) or a CH df+2 (Bloody Glaive) Mourning Crow stance is easily beaten by standing opponents with Power Crushes or Devil Jin can be floated out of it with jabs, leading to a full combo.
- Gimmicky: Devil Jin's Tekken 8 additions are mostly gimmicky, and the more knowledgeable the opponent the worse they get. High level Devil Jin play often boils down to just whiff punishing with EWGF, block punishing with Flash Punch Combo, and otherwise using the Mishima wave dash to alternate between the Hellsweep and WS2 (Alaya), which is -12 on block and tricky to pull off out of a wavedash.
- Loses to Patience: As long as opponents hold back, can break the occasional throw, and sometimes block a Hellsweep, Devil Jin has a very limited ability to open them up and relies on reads more than maybe any other character.
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★★☆☆☆EWGF in neutral
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★☆☆☆☆iWS from crouch dash
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★★☆☆☆rhythm
★★★★☆-15 EWGF block punish
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