Alisa punishers: Difference between revisions

Revision as of 18:36, 5 March 2024

Enemy	Move	Damage	Frames
Standing
-10	1,1	23	+5
-10	1,2,2	35	+21a (+6)
-12	2,2	32	+15a (+5)
-12	df+4	13	+4
-13	4	24	+14g
-13	3,2	30	+20a (+11)
-14	f+1+2	25	+14g
-14	f+3,1+2	35	+8
-15	b+4,4	34	+9a (-1)
-15	uf+4,4	16	+45a (+37)
-16	uf+2	22	+20a (+11)
	f+4,1,4	60	+1a
	df+2	16	+32a (+22)
-17	f+2,1	32	+14c
-17	ub+2	23	+38a (-20)
-18	b+3+4	22	+32a (+22)
Crouching
-11	ws4	15	+6
-13	ws1,2	24	+6
-17	ws2	24	+33a (+23)
Back-turned opponent
Grounded opponent

Move	Speed	Range	Damage	Risk	Hitbox
Whiff punishers

i10: 1,1,1+2 -> DES

i14: f+1+2,3 -> BOT f+1+2,3f -> DBT

i16: f+4,1+2 -> DES

i17: f+2,1+2 -> DES

Alisa's punishers generally have alternatives that go into stance or set-up a mix-up. Some of Alisa's alternative punishers are only natural on CH.

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    |{{o| moveId = Alisa-df+2 | enemy = -16 }}
    |{{o| moveId = Alisa-f+2,1 | enemy = -17 }}
-  |{{o| moveId = Alisa-d+4 | enemy = -17 }}
-  |{{o| moveId = Alisa-uf+3 | enemy = -17 }}
    |{{o| moveId = Alisa-ub+2 | enemy = -17 }}
    |{{o| moveId = Alisa-b+3+4 | enemy = -18 }}
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    |crouching={{o
        |{{o| moveId = Alisa-ws4 | enemy = -11 }}
-      |{{o| moveId = Alisa-FC.db+1+2 | enemy = -11 }}
        |{{o| moveId = Alisa-ws1,2 | enemy = -13 }}
        |{{o| moveId = Alisa-ws2 | enemy = -17 }}
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    |backTurnedOpponent={{o
    }}
 }}
 {{WhiffPunisherTable
 }}
+== Alternate Punishers into Stance ==
+'''i10''':
+,1,1+2 -> DES
+'''i14''':
+f+1+2,3 -> BOT
+f+1+2,3f -> DBT
+'''i16''':
+f+4,1+2 -> DES
+'''i17''':
+f+2,1+2 -> DES
+Alisa's punishers generally have alternatives that go into stance or set-up a mix-up. Some of Alisa's alternative punishers are only natural on CH.