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{{Infobox tricky moves T8 | {{Infobox tricky moves T8 | ||
|slide=ws4, b3,2, b3,2D, GMH f1 T! | |slide=ws4, b3,2, b3,2D, GMH f1 T! | ||
|alisa-a = f,F+4<ref>ff4 will punish b44, and tornado float if she does the extension. EMGF is harder but will both launch her, and tornado float the extension. </ref> or EMGF<ref name="EMGF">b,db | |alisa-a = f,F+4<ref>ff4 will punish b44, and tornado float if she does the extension. EMGF is harder but will both launch her, and tornado float the extension. </ref> or EMGF<ref name="EMGF">b,db,d,df,f:df1 or 1+4:df1 </ref> | ||
|alisa-b = df+2,1D, GMH 2 T!<ref>This is a true option select however if she does the extension, the game will count it as a float combo.</ref> | |alisa-b = df+2,1D, GMH 2 T!<ref>This is a true option select however if she does the extension, the game will count it as a float combo.</ref> | ||
|asuka-a= b+1+2 or f,F+1+2 or H.2+3 | |asuka-a= b+1+2 or f,F+1+2 or H.2+3 | ||
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|crouching={{o | |crouching={{o | ||
|{{o| moveId = Jack-8-H.2+3| moveNote=<ref>Will not work against moves that also leave opponent recovering in crouch</ref>}} | |{{o| moveId = Jack-8-H.2+3| moveNote=<ref>Will not work against moves that also leave opponent recovering in crouch ''(i.e. Lars SEN 2'').</ref>}} | ||
|{{o| moveId = Jack-8-FC.2 }} | |{{o| moveId = Jack-8-FC.2 }} | ||
|{{o| moveId = Jack-8-ws4 }} | |{{o| moveId = Jack-8-ws4 }} | ||
|{{o| moveId = Jack-8-FC.df+4,2 }} | |{{o| moveId = Jack-8-FC.df+4,2 }} | ||
|{{o| moveId = Jack-8-d+2+4| move=FC.db+2+4| frames= +6d(Heat)}} | |{{o| moveId = Jack-8-d+2+4| moveNote=<ref>Will only work against moves that also leave opponent recovering in crouch ''(i.e. Victor PRF 1'').</ref>| move=FC.db+2+4| frames= +6d(Heat)}} | ||
|{{o| moveId = Jack-8-ws2,1 }} | |{{o| moveId = Jack-8-ws2,1| moveNote=<ref>Use b3 afterwards for a total of 38 dmg and oki.</ref> }} | ||
|{{o| moveId = Jack-8-ws2,4 }} | |{{o| moveId = Jack-8-ws2,4 }} | ||
|{{o| moveId = Jack-8-ws1}} | |{{o| moveId = Jack-8-ws1}} | ||
Latest revision as of 05:08, 19 June 2024
| Jack-8 |
|---|
| Punishers (Tekken 8) |
|---|
| Punishers for tricky moves | ||
|---|---|---|
| Various | Slide | ws4, b3,2, b3,2D, GMH f1 T! |
| Alisa |
|
f,F+4[1] or EMGF[2] |
|
df+2,1D, GMH 2 T![3] | |
| b+3 | b+1+2 or f,F+1+2 or H.2+3 | |
| Bryan | df+2,3 | 2,3 or df+3+4 |
| Claudio | f+2,2 | f+3+4[4] or f,F+1+2 |
| Jack-8 | d+1+2 | f,F+1+2 or H.2+3 |
| King | db+4 | cc db+1+2 or cc EMGF[2] [5] |
| f,F+2 | b+1+2 or f,F+1+2 or H.2+3 | |
| Law | df+3 | df+3+4 |
| Paul | d+4,2:1+2 | f,F+1+2 or H.2+3 |
| qcf+2 | b+1+2 or f,F+1+2 or H.2+3[6] | |
| Victor | f,F+2 | df+2 |
| Xiaoyu | BT.f+3+4,3+4 | 2,1,2[7] or uf+1+2[8] |
| AOP.3+4 | ws4, b3,2, b3,2D, GMH f1 T! | |
| Zafina |
|
Lmao[9] |
This page is for Tekken 8. For Tekken 7, see Jack-7 punishers.
| Standing | |||
| Enemy | Move | Damage | Frames |
|---|---|---|---|
| -10 | f+2 | 22 | +5 |
| H.2+3 | 50 | -2d (-12) | |
| -11 | 2,1 | 22 | +2 |
| 2,3 | 28 | +5 | |
| -12 | 1,1 | 32 | +4c |
| -13 | df+3+4 | 28 | +10a (+1) |
| -14 | f+1,1 | 38 | +8d (-1) |
| b+1+2 | 28 | -1d (-10) | |
| -15 | df+2 | 13 | +31a (+21) |
| Crouching | |||
| -10 | H.2+3[10] | 50 | -2d (-12) |
| -11 | FC.2 | 8 | +7 |
| ws4 | 20 | +5 | |
| -12 | FC.df+4,2 | 27 | +4c |
| FC.db+2+4[11] | 25 | +6d(Heat) | |
| -14 | ws2,1[12] | 27 | +3d |
| ws2,4 | 36 | +21a (+11) | |
| -15 | ws1 | 14 | +34a (+24) |
| Back-turned opponent | |||
| -11 | 2,1,2[7] | 42 | +29a (+19) |
| uf+1+2 | 70 | +3d | |
| -14 | f+1,2,1[13] | 45 | +65a (+49) |
| Grounded opponent | |||
| -14 | FC.db+1 | 14 | +3 |
| -16 | db+4 | 14 | -2 |
| b+3 | 14 | +2 | |
| -18 | db+1+2 | 29 | -5 |
| -20 | EMGF[2] | 30 | +66a (+50) |
| Whiff punishers | |||||
| Move | Speed | Range | Damage | Risk | Hitbox |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2,1 | i11 | 2.3 | 22 | -3 | High, Mid |
| b+1+2 | i14 | 2.8 | 28, Heat engager | -19 | Mid |
| df+2 | i15 | 2.5 | Launch | -14 | Mid |
| f,F+1+2 | i15 | up to 4.5 | Launch | -15 | Mid |
| f+3+4[4] | i22 | 3.6 | 24 | -11 | Mid |
- ↑ ff4 will punish b44, and tornado float if she does the extension. EMGF is harder but will both launch her, and tornado float the extension.
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 b,db,d,df,f:df1 or 1+4:df1
- ↑ This is a true option select however if she does the extension, the game will count it as a float combo.
- ↑ 4.0 4.1 Hold D to go into GMH, and from there you can get a guaranteed GMH2+4 for heat or GMH1+3 for damage and oki. GMH1+3 will also trigger floor breaks.
- ↑ If the opponent tries to stand up and block, they get BT Tornado launched
- ↑ Heat smash can also punish a poorly spaced heat deathfist.
- ↑ 7.0 7.1 ws3D, GMH f1 T!, ff+2, b32D, GMH f1.
- ↑ Leaves Xiaoyu FUFA. Will trigger floor breaks for HELLA damage.
- ↑ There's no OS here. If they do ws2 by itself, i14 punish. If they do the MNT transition then your best bet is f3+4. Delay it a bit so that you get the guaranteed crouch throw instead of an airborne spike. For reference, wait until you see her head pop back up after the roll.
- ↑ Will not work against moves that also leave opponent recovering in crouch (i.e. Lars SEN 2).
- ↑ Will only work against moves that also leave opponent recovering in crouch (i.e. Victor PRF 1).
- ↑ Use b3 afterwards for a total of 38 dmg and oki.
- ↑ f4, b1, f121